Peace out New York City (MTA strike)

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Peace out New York City (MTA strike)

http://www.nysun.com/article/24743

So, anyone here from NYC? How do you feel about this strike? 馃檨

No idea since I don't live in NYC but over here public transport goes on strike about once a year.

I don't see how the strike could affect New Yorkers. Most of them take the subway.

The subway's one of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority's branches.

This all ova the news in NY. The sucky part of it is that its the holidays.

Yeah, this is not a good idea. Having strikes during the holiday season really could backfire on them. Back in 1996 UPS had a strike and because of that their competitors took over. Now DHL and Fedex are on the top with UPS and the Postal Office. Strikes sometimes don't equal success.

We'll I don't think the MTA will have the same problem, I don't think that a rival subway system is going to pop up.

ofcourse they don't certainly not for private companies (which have competition) but I don't think the MTA has a lot of competition

well why can't the national guard be called to take over?

Taxis are other options New Yorkers can take and there is also carpooling with co-workers, riding a bycicle, scooters, etc...

the national guard for a one day? (correct me if I'm wrong) strike?

Originally posted by ash007
well why can't the national guard be called to take over?

Because that would be forcibly breaking a strike and thats illegal,
Besides their all in Iraq...

I've had a lot of experience with strikes. It was one of my primary jobs at Volvo Trucks, NA. A huge majority of the time, the unions are corrupt and expect too much. These unions are of the opinion that companies can't operate without them. But thet are sorely mistaken most of the time, and when they see the back up plans being implemented the night of the negotiation deadline, they tend to buckle.

When the airline employees went on strike in the '80's Reagan forced them back to work. It was a matter of national interest. That;s one of the President's powers. However, this MTA strike in NY will never go that way.

And the MTA in NYC is nothing like UPS, or any other service or goods industry. The public transportation system in NY CAN'T be scrapped. It's a billions of dollar investment. However, there are non-union employees that can certainly take over, at a hugely reduced capacity no less, until the situation is resolved.

Oh well I don't know the full list of demands nor what it costs for benefits and such so its tough to say who is fair in this however the little snippet on raising retirement from age 55 to 62 does seem fair............

Mostly I dislike unions today...........I realize they have a purpose but they are a business entity looking out for a business entity.....(themselves)

Happens in London every Chrimbo and New Year 馃檨

Just heard about this on the news actually, they made it sound serious, something like 7 million commuters stranded having to walk or use taxis (though there aren't enough) and it's the first strike of it's nature in 25 years. Apparently it's been ruled as illegal and the unions are being fined $1 million every day the strike lasts, and the workers who strike can also be fined up to $25,000.

Seems serious, I thought that unions were allowed to call strikes, what in the US makes an "illegal" strike?

Originally posted by soleran30
Oh well I don't know the full list of demands nor what it costs for benefits and such so its tough to say who is fair in this however the little snippet on raising retirement from age 55 to 62 does seem fair............

Mostly I dislike unions today...........I realize they have a purpose but they are a business entity looking out for a business entity.....(themselves)

i don't know their demands either, in fact I hadn't heard about this until today. but, I'm willing to bet it's fairly unreasonable. Public services, owned by the government pay it's workers very well, on top of the excellent benefits they have.

And the 55 to 65 thing is totally reasonable! If they weren't a government funded and run buisness, they wouldn't have been able to retire at 55 anyway! Very few companies/organizations offer such benefits. I have little to no sympathy for any government worker that organizes and goes on strike. The governement workers are some of the best compensated groups in this country.

And you're right, the unions today are abusive and manipulative. They were created to ensure safe conditions, fair wages and later on a retirement plan. almost immeadiately, they got in bed with organized crime and it all went the way of strong arming these companies.

Unions these days are little better than the mob...

HA HA....subway operators...oh... such a hard job....be hard to retrain anyone. 馃槈

yup 60k wages and gotta love the retirement piece馃檪.........now I know its NY hey thats chump change right?.........well look at the average wage paid in NY still and 60k is well above average in all the buroughs except manahattan.

Wow you certainly get fired up over that Capt..........I am glad its not just me.

Good. To many fat people in New York anyway. It wont kill them to walk more then 5 feet.