Wolverine Vs Batman/Nightwing/Dare Devil.

Originally posted by Jose123
You'll throw Bats a bone?
Are you actually implying that Wolvy might actually be a better trained martial artist than Batman.
The "Ive mastered 127 different martial arts styles" Batman

Don't get me wrong I know Wolvys great in the styles he knows but with his military training,Samurai and some other martial arts training,and his street brawler method I doubt He knows more than four.

They say wolverine knows most in the world and of course he lived way longer than Batman will ever live.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler

It did do some damage...and that was quite weak thunderclap on Hulk's standards...

that's not in continuity though, is it? 🙁

Originally posted by Dark Urizen
that's not in continuity though, is it? 🙁

Yes it is...Hulk #340.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Yes it is...Hulk #340.

But..........doesn't he like.......break Wolverine's spine in that one? 😖

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Well I don't know which has better.

They say wolverine knows most in the world and of course he lived way longer than Batman will ever live.

Living longer doesn't necessarily mean he has better skills.
And he spent most of those years in canada during the late 1800's and early 1900's living in the wild or in some shack somewhere. He spent the rest of his life being brainwashed and having his past erased by the gov.

He's spends a couple of years in Japan training as a samurai and he suddenly knows every martial arts style in the world?

Something doesn't add up.

Originally posted by Jose123
You'll throw Bats a bone?
Are you actually implying that Wolvy might actually be a better trained martial artist than Batman.
The "Ive mastered 127 different martial arts styles" Batman

Don't get me wrong I know Wolvys great in the styles he knows but with his military training,Samurai and some other martial arts training,and his street brawler method I doubt He knows more than four.

Batman is barely in the top ten of DC martial artists, and the number of styles you know hardly decided how skilled you are (although those crapy Handbooks do say he knows ever martial art). Captain America knows every martial art and while the two have never actually fought the brief tossels they have (there are two) have them around even in skill (Captain America might have also said Wolverine was better then him when the teamed up to fight a gaint robot) and Wolverine has pawned Shang Chi in three panels (Chi is also one of the few Marvel character's that have been said to be master's of every fighting style) and he has beat Zarana even harder and he even held his own against Stick. There isn't a doubt in my mind that Wolverine is a better fighter the Wolverine but I have no problem letting people think what the want, Bruce could be 10 times the fighter Wolverine is and he would still lose.

Also on the Hulk thunderclap issue, I believe in Incredible Hulk 454, used the clap on the x-men (including Wolverine ) but I dont remember the out come.

Originally posted by Jose123
Living longer doesn't necessarily mean he has better skills.
And he spent most of those years in canada during the late 1800's and early 1900's living in the wild or in some shack somewhere. He spent the rest of his life being brainwashed and having his past erased by the gov.

He's spends a couple of years in Japan training as a samurai and he suddenly knows every martial arts style in the world?

Something doesn't add up.

Wolverine Origin ends at him being somewhere around 20-ish i think. Not just by his looks, but also by comparing to Rose.
After that it's a blur, so it could've been anything, really, since Smitty made him curious about the Japanese and he might've decided to head over there as the next location. It's all speculation though, and i agree that it doesn't make much sense.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Batman is barely in the top ten of DC martial artists, and the number of styles you know hardly decided how skilled you are (although those crapy Handbooks do say he knows ever martial art). Captain America knows every martial art and while the two have never actually fought the brief tossels they have (there are two) have them around even in skill (Captain America might have also said Wolverine was better then him when the teamed up to fight a gaint robot) and Wolverine has pawned Shang Chi in three panels (Chi is also one of the few Marvel character's that have been said to be master's of every fighting style) and he has beat Zarana even harder and he even held his own against Stick. There isn't a doubt in my mind that Wolverine is a better fighter the Wolverine but I have no problem letting people think what the want, Bruce could be 10 times the fighter Wolverine is and he would still lose.

Also on the Hulk thunderclap issue, I believe in Incredible Hulk 454, used the clap on the x-men (including Wolverine ) but I dont remember the out come.

Where did you get this information that Cap knows every martial art form from? I think it's very very much mistaken 😬
I thought he just knew American Boxing, judo, something else, and his own shield style.

Originally posted by Jose123
You'll throw Bats a bone?
Are you actually implying that Wolvy might actually be a better trained martial artist than Batman.
The "Ive mastered 127 different martial arts styles" Batman

Don't get me wrong I know Wolvys great in the styles he knows but with his military training,Samurai and some other martial arts training,and his street brawler method I doubt He knows more than four.

lol 4 are u ****ing kididn gme he has over 100 years of battle experience. trust me he knows a lot more styles then bats

Also Shang-Chi isnt master of all martial arts. Just master of Kung-Fu.

Originally posted by wolverine8888
lol 4 are u ****ing kididn gme he has over 100 years of battle experience. trust me he knows a lot more styles then bats

100's of years battle experience doesnt equal more styles.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine has pawned Shang Chi in three panels (Chi is also one of the few Marvel character's that have been said to be master's of every fighting style) and he has beat Zarana even harder and he even held his own against Stick. There isn't a doubt in my mind that Wolverine is a better fighter the Wolverine but I have no problem letting people think what the want, Bruce could be 10 times the fighter Wolverine is and he would still lose..

And wolverine has been pawned by Spider-women with his own claws in less than two panels

Spider-women just has military training . Thats some skill.

Originally posted by Dark Urizen
But..........doesn't he like.......break Wolverine's spine in that one? 😖

That one is What If.

Originally posted by jrodslam
100's of years battle experience doesnt equal more styles.

True DAT

Originally posted by Dark Urizen
Where did you get this information that Cap knows every martial art form from? I think it's very very much mistaken 😬
I thought he just knew American Boxing, judo, something else, and his own shield style.

I have post a scan before where he says it. Sadly I can't do it again since I have no clue what issue it's from as I got it off a Captain America respect tread on another forum. It's an old issue mid 70's early 80's, Cap is fighting Baron Zemo who is bragging about his MA skills a judo chopping threw a bunch of stuff. Captain America owns him and says something like "I was a master of every fighting style known to man while you were a child'

And Shang Chi like his father is a master of every martial, and he has a) beat his father and b) beat half a dozen of the monks from the temple his father trained at who also where masters of every fighting style at the same time. Master of Kung-Fu is the name of his comic... not his skill set

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
That one is What If.

Goddammit 🙁

Also, W8888 just because he was around more means very little. he was around during the two world wars and he participated in both, so not a lot of time spent training in martial arts then huh? He was in Canada with Rose till around 20-ish like i said before, he was involved with the Weapon X program, etc. etc.
If anything, his very full schedule would have allowed him INCREDIBLY little time to actually learn many styles, or master a few 🙁

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I have post a scan before where he says it. Sadly I can't do it again since I have no clue what issue it's from as I got it off a Captain America respect tread on another forum. It's an old issue mid 70's early 80's, Cap is fighting Baron Zemo who is bragging about his MA skills a judo chopping threw a bunch of stuff. Captain America owns him and says something like "I was a master of every fighting style known to man while you were a child'

And Shang Chi like his father is a master of every martial, and he has a) beat his father and b) beat half a dozen of the monks from the temple his father trained at who also where masters of every fighting style at the same time. Master of Kung-Fu is the name of his comic... not his skill set

Well i don't know about that, but every handbook i have with cap in it says that he's a master of american boxing, judo, something i can't remember and his own style with the shield so........ 😖

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Batman is barely in the top ten of DC martial artists, and the number of styles you know hardly decided how skilled you are (although those crapy Handbooks do say he knows ever martial art). Captain America knows every martial art and while the two have never actually fought the brief tossels they have (there are two) have them around even in skill (Captain America might have also said Wolverine was better then him when the teamed up to fight a gaint robot) and Wolverine has pawned Shang Chi in three panels (Chi is also one of the few Marvel character's that have been said to be master's of every fighting style) and he has beat Zarana even harder and he even held his own against Stick. There isn't a doubt in my mind that Wolverine is a better fighter the Wolverine but I have no problem letting people think what the want, Bruce could be 10 times the fighter Wolverine is and he would still lose.

Umm...just because Wolverine has beaten some people, thet means that he is better fighter then Batman? Batman's beaten lot too...
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f50/t363873.html

Originally posted by Dark Urizen
Goddammit 🙁

Also, W8888 just because he was around more means very little. he was around during the two world wars and he participated in both, so not a lot of time spent training in martial arts then huh? He was in Canada with Rose till around 20-ish like i said before, he was involved with the Weapon X program, etc. etc.
If anything, his very full schedule would have allowed him INCREDIBLY little time to actually learn many styles, or master a few 🙁

Not to mention he keeps having his past and memory erased by the gov.
Even if he did learn any of it before he got into weapon X I doubt he would remember any of it.

Originally posted by Jose123
And wolverine has been pawned by Spider-women with his own claws in less than two panels

Spider-women just has military training . Thats some skill.

PIS my friend, not to mention the only reason Wolverine is on the New Avengers (and Astonishing X-men for that matter) is to be the whipping boy and get owned when ever possible.

Also SHIELD operatives are among the best trained in the world. There is an issue of The Pulse where some old SHEILD Agent is talking to Jessica and he is like, "I know you have superpowers, but I'm a level 9 SHIELD Agent and could talk you down in a second."