Originally posted by DrDoom101
Which Hercules is this? If it's mortal, he takes them all out.
Are you saying mortal Herc > immortal Herc? 🤨
Anyway, thing goes out with a punch, Colossus will probably last more, but the nasty part is Colossus who is a good fighter and Hercules who is an incredibly awesome fighter fighting Superman 2 vs. 1. He might have a lot of trouble. Can't decide if he'll win or lose the majority, but he's gonna have a hard time.
On a sidenote: I really dislike threads that take out character's powers. And just so that it's clear, if Superman had all his powers i wouldn't even think twice about him beating the crap out of all three of them.
Originally posted by Dark Urizen
Are you saying mortal Herc > immortal Herc? 🤨Anyway, thing goes out with a punch, Colossus will probably last more, but the nasty part is Colossus who is a good fighter and Hercules who is an incredibly awesome fighter fighting Superman 2 vs. 1. He might have a lot of trouble. Can't decide if he'll win or lose the majority, but he's gonna have a hard time.
On a sidenote: I really dislike threads that take out character's powers. And just so that it's clear, if Superman had all his powers i wouldn't even think twice about him beating the crap out of all three of them.
Agreed, on all counts.
Re: uh
Originally posted by cybermaster
there powers and strength of course. he can take on each one one at a time but not all together.
The only person with strength that Supes will even notice is Hercules.
He'll rip the other two to shreds with no effort. Heck - he could flick them off the planet.
Now immortal Herc is a bit more of a problem cos he has strength on par with Supes.
I doubt his durability is as good, but Supes always seems to have more trouble hurting 'magically imbued' characters such as Thor, Cap Marvel, WW etc. So I'd think he might have a little difficulty here too.
Still - Supes is invulnerable compared to Thing and Collossus and still very tough against the magically imbued fists of Herc.
I'd say, if the team play it very cool and plan things out, they could take a good 5-6/10.
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PS - I hate this kinda thread too... 😄
Originally posted by olympian
Only strenght used?immortal Herc alone is a handfull. Even current who is close to that level would give troubles. And he even has help here?
The team wins.
Hercules would be a handful IMO more because of his skill than his strength. Sure, he's incredibly awesome and would be taken notice of, but it's his skill that tells him apart from most other heavyhitters. And even so, he has fought Namor to a standstill (both holding back, i'm aware), and that doesn't really impress me when it comes to fighting a guy that can drag the planet as opposed to dragging manhattan.
He would indeed be the most trouble, and it's him being in this team that influences the outcome most. I agree. But i'm not sold on the team winning just yet.
Immortal Herc durability is very good. Not as good as Superman but :
- took one blast from Korvac and was still standing to attack him while Thor (first and only blast he took) was pushed to the ground.
- took Arkon`s attack better than Wman did.
- punches from savage Hulk to no damage.
- perhaps one of the most notable, taking Mjolnir shots of a mad controlled Thor that wer meant to kill him and survived.
More than one in fact, in the back of his head.
- took and survived blasts from Warlock with his gem iirc. Altho i suspect Herc was in berserk mode and his durability was increased.
Just some examples.
"And even so, he has fought Namor to a standstill (both holding back, i'm aware)?
Namor fresh out of water is top tier. Its after being out for sometime it fades out.
There is no way you beat Abomination and Savage Hulk twice and not being top tier. Thats a myth with no foundation.
-as long- of course he regains his water source strenght.
"and that doesn't really impress me when it comes to fighting a guy that can drag the planet as opposed to dragging manhattan"
Superman at regular levels doesnt drag planets. Not with strenght alone.
Not to mention he has alot more low showings of that nature than immortal Herc does (only one that im aware).
Re: Re: uh
Originally posted by ZephroCarnelianof course hercules would probably get a good shot at him big time. but its always better if u have others back u up. but he usually doesnt need that.
The only person with strength that Supes will even notice is Hercules.He'll rip the other two to shreds with no effort. Heck - he could flick them off the planet.
Now immortal Herc is a bit more of a problem cos he has strength on par with Supes.
I doubt his durability is as good, but Supes always seems to have more trouble hurting 'magically imbued' characters such as Thor, Cap Marvel, WW etc. So I'd think he might have a little difficulty here too.
Still - Supes is invulnerable compared to Thing and Collossus and still very tough against the magically imbued fists of Herc.
I'd say, if the team play it very cool and plan things out, they could take a good 5-6/10.
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PS - I hate this kinda thread too... 😄
Originally posted by olympian
Immortal Herc durability is very good. Not as good as Superman but :- took one blast from Korvac and was still standing to attack him while Thor (first and only blast he took) was pushed to the ground.
- took Arkon`s attack better than Wman did.
- punches from savage Hulk to no damage.
- perhaps one of the most notable, taking Mjolnir shots of a mad controlled Thor that wer meant to kill him and survived.
More than one in fact, in the back of his head.
- took and survived blasts from Warlock with his gem iirc. Altho i suspect Herc was in berserk mode and his durability was increased.
Just some examples.
"And even so, he has fought Namor to a standstill (both holding back, i'm aware)?
Namor fresh out of water is top tier. Its after being out for sometime it fades out.
There is no way you beat Abomination and Savage Hulk twice and not being top tier. Thats a myth with no foundation.
-as long- of course he regains his water source strenght.
"and that doesn't really impress me when it comes to fighting a guy that can drag the planet as opposed to dragging manhattan"
Superman at regular levels doesnt drag planets. Not with strenght alone.
Not to mention he has alot more low showings of that nature than immortal Herc does (only one that im aware).
Nice examples. Superman took the equivalent of 1 million nuclear blasts, the explosion of the sun-eater, the mageddon mechanism, etc. etc.
Yes, i'm aware of what an impressive foe Namor is when freshly out of water, however, DC's awesome respect thread and all, i still don't see Namor anywhere near Superman-like strength except when he's in water, and not even always.
No, you're right, sometimes he pushes them a la Warworld 😛
Still not convinced they can defeat them. Not convinced HE can beat them either though.
Originally posted by hoorayforpeepee
superman's high-end durability feats are in a way PIS. For instance, if it wasn't for the Mageddon Warhead being "anti-sunlight" (WTF?), then Superman wouldn't have been able to absorb it and would of been atomized along with the galaxy.
What about the other durability feats?