I admire Vader the most...or perhaps, emphatize would be a better word. After seeing Episode 3, you sort of get the hint that he's not really evil per-se, not inherently so anyway. He's just been pushed to doing evil things, that are in his mind perfectly legitimate, because his values were corrupted by Palpatine. And in the end, he did these things out of love for Padme. Basically, he was willing to sacrifice everything he was for her, and that I think anyone can appreciate. It was unfortunte though that Anakin was so easily manipulated by Palpatine, otherwise he may have simply left the Jedi Order so he could be with Padme, rather than kill all the Jedi so he could secure his apprenticeship with Palpatine.
Originally posted by Darth Chronos
Then let me repeat it for you, Vader isnt a sith in my view, he isn't evil, he is a lost soul.
Ok I getcha now. I wasn't trying to be rude but there were a lot of typos/grammactical errors in the first post. I also understand what your saying. And agree, although I think he is both.
Admire?
Ragnos unchallenged untouched... But a coward unwilling to fight a republic he could have very likely taken.
Sidious a great person conquering the galaxy, but a coward backstabbing never fighting head on always relying on others to do the job, a great politican but thats it.
Malak, a powerful Sith Lord a front line fighter not afraid to take risks and true to the sith ideal he's also an arrogant ass who was to afraid of his master to fight him head on.
Maul a guy that showed up and died in a movie, making an unpresidented impact with only five lines or something in the entire movie... Stupid.
Vader, the first Sith Lord and one of the greatest, but he was to weak by his time of glory... He's good but not much more.
Then come those that I do respect
Exar Kun, somebody with power somebody with the will to take it. Powerful charismatic and he shook the universe, he was brilliant.
Revan, a leader and a powerful person almost made the republic fall. Joined the Dark Side and took thousands of Jedi with him, a guy that turned around one war to start another.
Those are the only two Sith Lords who I respect without a doubt. All the others have something that makes there respect drop. With these two, I haven't found anything that makes me dislike them.
Originally posted by FishyThis is perfect IMO.
Admire?Ragnos unchallenged untouched... But a coward unwilling to fight a republic he could have very likely taken.
Sidious a great person conquering the galaxy, but a coward backstabbing never fighting head on always relying on others to do the job, a great politican but thats it.
Malak, a powerful Sith Lord a front line fighter not afraid to take risks and true to the sith ideal he's also an arrogant ass who was to afraid of his master to fight him head on.
Maul a guy that showed up and died in a movie, making an unpresidented impact with only five lines or something in the entire movie... Stupid.
Vader, the first Sith Lord and one of the greatest, but he was to weak by his time of glory... He's good but not much more.
Then come those that I do respect
Exar Kun, somebody with power somebody with the will to take it. Powerful charismatic and he shook the universe, he was brilliant.
Revan, a leader and a powerful person almost made the republic fall. Joined the Dark Side and took thousands of Jedi with him, a guy that turned around one war to start another.
Those are the only two Sith Lords who I respect without a doubt. All the others have something that makes there respect drop. With these two, I haven't found anything that makes me dislike them.
Originally posted by exanda kane
Whats your opinion on Dooku Fishy?
Dooku is brilliant he's great but he's also following Sidious, he doesn't lead and he doesn't stand up. He has ideals but he destroys them by trying to keep them up. I like Dooku he's an elitist bastard, I like the way he acts I like the way he fights. But something is wrong with his head...
If he would have broken lose from Sidious I would have loved him, but he placed to much trust into his master. His fall was his own fault and he didn't deserve any better. I respect him more then many others but not on the levels of Exar Kun or Revan.
Darth Traya. She has the ability to remain completely inconspicuous to those around her and can mask her presence while being right under the noses of some of the most powerful Jedi. She's a great fighter (final boss battle, man can she do some damage) and she has quite the command of the Force as well.
Now some can argue that her manipulations make her weaker, but her manipulations are the reason I admire her. If you can avoid a conflict by fooling others into fighting for you and potentially destroying your enemies by making them destroy each other, I find much strength in that. Think about what Kreia did.
She fooled the Exile, whom I consider to be quite an intelligent and perceptive Jedi, she tricked Nihilus into coming to Telos so he could be destroyed, she deceived Atris when you were first captured by the Handmaidens (Atris never knew she was there), she brought the dark side out in Atris which led to her being defeated by the Exile, she fooled Sion (IMO) by telling him he needed to defeat the Exile and making him think he could do it which also led to his death.
Not to leave out the fact that she wiped out three of the most powerful Jedi Masters with a single Force attack. I think Kreia is the most clever Sith Lord (maybe moreso than Sidious) and she is the one I admire the most.
I feel the same way as Fishy, If i were Malak. I'd defeat Revan in the most honorable way, in a face-to-face duel. Not firing a couple of blasts on the flagship bridge. Not only would i secure my position as THE Dark Lord if i defeated Revan, my ways in defeating Revan would not be questioned, by anybody.
Originally posted by exanda kane
Definetly Dooku, he as class. He's a succesful politician, the Count of Sereno (mucho richo!) and a classical swordsman with a cool lightsaber. He seems to generally have a nobal cause for founding the Confedracy (to free the Repbulic from corruption) although theres the slight mishap of falling to the darkside involved.Also Revan, also follows a noble cause, also has alotta class, amazingly clever and seeks knowledge (pretty much a force powered uber geek!) who's amazingly powerful aswell. I like the cloak aswell, very scene. He also has a single saber (in KotOR 1), so he obviosuly hasnt sold out for this saber staff fad.
As for Maul...there is nothing remotedly interesting about Maul. he's crap. Saying you like him is like saying you wear shoulder pads...