Forum attitude on war in Iraq and terrorists in general

Originally posted by fruits
how can we always say that they are so f-in pissed that we're their? why? cuz all the media reports is when some iraqi tries to kill a soldier or holds hostages, they never report the good things. and thats the problem, people h ave a foggy view of what the issue in Iraq really is. and imagine if we've helped them move into a new type of government, we are trying to improve their economy, then the next day we're gone. backlash. that's when things would start to get violent. until they are ready to fend for themselves, we have to stay. and even when they're ready, we have to ease off slowly

They were pissed before we even got there. They were pissed before WWII. Sheep to the religion sad sad......

and now they're even more pissed, we cant just leave. we've gotta solve their problems to the best of our ability, THEN we can start to leave.

the usa isn't interested in there future... That why all the iraqies don't want you there now... They know that while sadam might be gone there country is in ruins.... its all about restoring a govenment that gonner fall in line when they snap there fingers...

trust me, that's what our main interest is is their future. that's why we are helping them with government, we're helping rebuild the country. you don't hear about that kind of stuff, cuz all the media's gonna report is someone getting shot, not american soldiers rebuilding an elementary school or something like that. and thats why everyone thinks all the Iraqis dont want us their, but thats just cuz of the media. sure, a bunch dont want us their, but a bunch pretty much dont mind. and if we get to stay in we are going to rebuild taht country and give it a bright future, and the lord said BAM!!

Originally posted by fruits
trust me, that's what our main interest is is their future. that's why we are helping them with government, we're helping rebuild the country. you don't hear about that kind of stuff, cuz all the media's gonna report is someone getting shot, not american soldiers rebuilding an elementary school or something like that. and thats why everyone thinks all the Iraqis dont want us their, but thats just cuz of the media. sure, a bunch dont want us their, but a bunch pretty much dont mind. and if we get to stay in we are going to rebuild taht country and give it a bright future, and the lord said BAM!!

Errr, and rest assure, the Iraqi's in general don't want the US there. They've shot their country to bits, they have invaded it, they shot innocents and dismiss it as 'collateral damage', they keep on playing the boss and can't get their government up at all; it's been to long, the Iraqi's want those soldiers out and who can blaim them?

USA put sadam in power... He was a CIA hitman told to kill the original dictator...

Tell me.... WHY didn't G.Bush senior get rid of sadam in the last invasion???? He was just as bad then...

we've gotta solve their problems to the best of our ability

Why do we have to solve the problems of the world? Doesn't the US have enough problems of its own to deal with?

Well, since Bush made a right mess of this, it only makes sense now to stay until it's cleaned up, and gradually get out of there.

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
USA put sadam in power... He was a CIA hitman told to kill the original dictator...

Tell me.... WHY didn't G.Bush senior get rid of sadam in the last invasion???? He was just as bad then...

Originally posted by Lana
Why do we have to solve the problems of the world? Doesn't the US have enough problems of its own to deal with?

Well, since Bush made a right mess of this, it only makes sense now to stay until it's cleaned up, and gradually get out of there.

and whoever it was who said we put Sadaam in power so we shoudlnt have taken him out.........we put nixon in power, should we have not taken him out of power either?? and even if it seems like it, im not saying whether going in was a good idea or not, but i AM saying that now that we're in, we need to stay in

no USA needs to get out of Iraq as soon as possible and leave the country to nato.... The rest of the world will calm iraq down and help the people... USA will only incite more hate and violence, come to think of it, I don't remember the last time the USA helped anyone out without getting something in return...

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
negotiate with terrorists and thier demands will only get bigger!

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
In the end howerver the IRA negotiated

Originally posted by Imagawa666
Your right. Middle eastern terrorists dont negotiate. Why? Becasue they are people whos actvities are driven by religious motivations not political like the IRA was.

Their motivation is to get the Americans off of their holy sites and that governments immediately stop with rules dissadvantaging or discriminating Muslim people.
Doesn't change the fact though that they resorted to violence in getting attention and did unacceptable crimes but you should really know what you are talking about before you insinuate that religious terrorists have ridiculous demands.

But again: I said 'negotiation' as an example to an alternative to KidRocks murdering the whole middle east idea.

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
USA put sadam in power... He was a CIA hitman told to kill the original dictator...

Tell me.... WHY didn't G.Bush senior get rid of sadam in the last invasion???? He was just as bad then...

the US helped keep saddam in power, but you're thinking of Augusto Pinochete, sadam was already in power when the US developed an interest in him.

i think you will find that he was actually a CIA hitman... Sent to kill the original leader, Sadam then took power..

Originally posted by fruits
cuz we're just one of those countries that does that. it's like, ur walking on the street when you see a poor guy in an alley. some people would just pass him by, but if the USA were a person, we'd stop, talk to him, give him a lil money, all that jazz. that's just how we roll. whether we've got problems or not, we can still help others.

and whoever it was who said we put Sadaam in power so we shoudlnt have taken him out.........we put nixon in power, should we have not taken him out of power either?? and even if it seems like it, im not saying whether going in was a good idea or not, but i AM saying that now that we're in, we need to stay in

I think you missed the part where you beat the hoeless guy to death right before you help him.

no, i'm pretty sure you're confusing saddam with the Shah, Augusto Pinochete, or Manuel Noriega, hit and miss.

Originally posted by Imagawa666
Why is this forum full of idiots who believe that saddam hussain should have been left in power and that it was wring to go after him and all the islamic extremists.

Many people agree that Sadam was a prick that had to be dealt with, what they disagree with is the method that was chosen. Also, don't lump sadam and his gov't with the islamic extremists, they're totally separate problems. Sadam himself was also against the fundamentalist islamic movement.

Originally posted by Imagawa666
God the world is full of spineless idiots who cant relise that these people are inherintly evil!

And the world is equally full of idiots who don't totaly understand a situation yet feel that not only is their call for mass slaughter only right and justifiable, but that it is the only answer, and not part of the problem.

Originally posted by fruits
ONE you cant wage a war on an idea, which is what terrorism is. you can defeat a country in war, but not something like terrorism. how do you judge if you've won or not, if the world is rid of terrorrists? come on people, this will never happen, it is impossible, a stupid war that we really cant win

Exactly! Give this man a cookie.

Originally posted by fruits
trust me, that's what our main interest is is their future. that's why we are helping them with government, we're helping rebuild the country. you don't hear about that kind of stuff, cuz all the media's gonna report is someone getting shot, not american soldiers rebuilding an elementary school or something like that. and thats why everyone thinks all the Iraqis dont want us their, but thats just cuz of the media. sure, a bunch dont want us their, but a bunch pretty much dont mind. and if we get to stay in we are going to rebuild taht country and give it a bright future, and the lord said BAM!!

I'd have to agree that the U.S. should help rebuild this country after they blew it up. And the media, god how I usually despise the media, they aren't doing anything to report the stories of rebuilding efforts. Only when terrorist bombers kill 20 people or when another Marine dies do they bother to "break" the story to everyone.
I think a good idea would be for the U.S. to pull most of it's military out of the area and just sponsor rebuilding efforts. Volunteers of non-profits should be allowed to go and help but the soldiers shouln't be there as part of a WAR. It would be wise to have some soldiers there if there are North American volunteers there for the sake of the volunteers safety but other than that the military should be home, working, going to school and raising their children if they have any.
I don't see the U.S. simply helping to fund the rebuilding process without being able to decide what EXACTLY that money builds, though.

I CANT STAND THIS THREAD! WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH SLAUGHTERING THESE TERRORISTS? AND WITH KILLING SADDAM AND THE REST OF HIS CRONIES? IS MASSACRERING MEGLOMANIACS WRONG NOW? ARE THEY ALLOWED TO COMMIT ATROCITIES AND GET AWAY WITH IT? YOU PEOPLE ARE A BUNCH OF SPINELESS HYPOCRITES JUST LIKE THOSE BLEEDIN ANTI WAR PROTESTERS! I LOOK FORWARD TO THE DAY THEY NUKE A BIG CHUNK OF THE MIDDLE EAST OFF THE MAP AND YOU COME HERE AND WHINE AND COMPLAIN ABOUT IT! GOOD DAY TO YOU ALL!

Originally posted by Imagawa666
I CANT STAND THIS THREAD! WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH SLAUGHTERING THESE TERRORISTS? AND WITH KILLING SADDAM AND THE REST OF HIS CRONIES? IS MASSACRERING MEGLOMANIACS WRONG NOW? ARE THEY ALLOWED TO COMMIT ATROCITIES AND GET AWAY WITH IT? YOU PEOPLE ARE A BUNCH OF SPINELESS HYPOCRITES JUST LIKE THOSE BLEEDIN ANTI WAR PROTESTERS! I LOOK FORWARD TO THE DAY THEY NUKE A BIG CHUNK OF THE MIDDLE EAST OFF THE MAP AND YOU COME HERE AND WHINE AND COMPLAIN ABOUT IT! GOOD DAY TO YOU ALL!

BRAVO!!! class A tantrum if i ever saw one.

someone skipped his meds today? 🙂

SHUT THE HELL UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I cant stand you and your stupid cocky atttitude!