I'm not sure what to think of the fight. Going by the art alone, Colossus was kicking all sorts of ass and was winning. But the weird inner dialog makes it seems like he is getting his ass handed to him. It does look like he would have killed Kuurth though.
I'm also not sure if that speed is coming just from Colossus or that critical mass build-up thing going on.
Originally posted by Ptr_GrifinFeats > statements imo
I'm not sure what to think of the fight. Going by the art alone, Colossus was kicking all sorts of ass and was winning. But the weird inner dialog makes it seems like he is getting his ass handed to him. It does look like he would have killed Kuurth though.I'm also not sure if that speed is coming just from Colossus or that critical mass build-up thing going on.
Colossus seemd superior despeite his dialog
Originally posted by -Pr-He was drawing blood from cain as well ,we dont know the extent of cains injuries
Colossus was shown to be inferior. When the statements talk about your injuries, they're as good as feats. Colossus did well, but he was clearly outmatched. He might have won, but only because of the critical mass thing.
Its like me beating the crap out of my brother while saying he is superior
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
He was drawing blood from cain as well ,we dont know the extent of cains injuries
If anything the were roughly equal
Heck the art shows him being superior despite his statement
He drew blood, yes, but Cain was breaking his bones.
The issue implied that Cain was superior in a straight fight, and even Colossus admitted that his only advantage was that he was unstoppable. He even states that Cain was stronger and faster.
Originally posted by -Pr-Cain might of had broken bones too, and colossus didnt seemed phased by the critical mass build up were cain is screaming in pain
He drew blood, yes, but Cain was breaking his bones.The issue implied that Cain was superior in a straight fight, and even Colossus admitted that his only advantage was that he was unstoppable. He even states that Cain was stronger and faster.
If anything kuurnis slightly superior but colossus unstopabioity makes them equal
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Cain might of had broken bones too, and colossus didnt seemed phased by the critical mass build up were cain is screaming in painIf anything kuurnis slightly superior but colossus unstopabioity makes them equal
cain might have had broken bones yes, but since it wasn't stated, we can't assume he did.
the critical mass build-up was directly affecting juggernaut because it was his own energy. if it had gone off, it would have surely hurt colossus.
colossus' unstoppability helped, but i don't see it making them equals.
Originally posted by -Pr-Colossus also stated that every injury Cain was giving him didn't matter to him.
He drew blood, yes, but Cain was breaking his bones.The issue implied that Cain was superior in a straight fight, and even Colossus admitted that his only advantage was that he was unstoppable. He even states that Cain was stronger and faster.
Colossus after the fight is in perfect condition
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/51954/2018724-uncanny_x_men_543_0021.jpg
As Ptr_Grifin pointed out elsewhere though neither of them are likely full-powered Juggernauts.
"According to New Excalibur, when a Juggernaut becomes apostate, another Juggernaut is selected, but neither are at full power. They are in a weakened state so that one can prove himself and kill the other to claim the full power."
Likewise Cain's durabilty/power was reduced when he shared his power with Black Tom too.
It will be interesting to see how it plays out however. Since Kuurth still lives are they only (possibly) still at half a Juggernaut (Colossus + Jug/2 & Kuurth + Jug/2) each? Apparently Cain's killed at least one other potential usurper on his way to reclaiming the Ruby during his days with Excalibur. That would explain their casually breaking bones.
Largely I agree with Pr's interpretation though.
Originally posted by Newjak
Colossus also stated that every injury Cain was giving him didn't matter to him.
Aye, which must be a side-effect of being the Juggernaut. I think it's interesting in the sense that if it's true, it hints at Juggernaut being damageable, he just doesn't really care.
Though Colossus is bound to get a boost.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Colossus after the fight is in perfect conditionhttp://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/51954/2018724-uncanny_x_men_543_0021.jpg
That doesn't mean he wasn't hurt during it.
Originally posted by Newjak
Colossus also stated that every injury Cain was giving him didn't matter to him.
Exactly. Kuurth inflicted pain like Colossus had never felt before. He admitted it. And that says how powerful kuurth is cause big c has been hit by almost all the heavy hitters
It doesn't matter if kuurth was stronger. After reading the issue it sure seemed liked Colossus dominated him and enjoyed the pain. He knocked the piss out of kuurth also .
I'm sure the new Colossus is now one of the most durable characters in marvel. I hope we get some raw strength feats soon. Gotta think he's way above old Colossus now and not just unstoppable.
Yeah he probably is high herald level now. As long as he embraces the destruction he causes. That speed feat if pretty cool too. I wonder what his top speed is. He's a beast right now.
That uncanny x-men team is looking very impressive. The raw power on that team should make it pretty much unbeatable on earth. No earth team can touch em...
Originally posted by -Pr-
Aye, which must be a side-effect of being the Juggernaut. I think it's interesting in the sense that if it's true, it hints at Juggernaut being damageable, he just doesn't really care.Though Colossus is bound to get a boost.
That doesn't mean he wasn't hurt during it.
He did say he was feeling his bone breaking he did say that he couldn't stop. So stamina feat?
Originally posted by nwg202That Uncanny roster can take down an elite Avengers squad imo.
Yeah he probably is high herald level now. As long as he embraces the destruction he causes. That speed feat if pretty cool too. I wonder what his top speed is. He's a beast right now.That uncanny x-men team is looking very impressive. The raw power on that team should make it pretty much unbeatable on earth. No earth team can touch em...
