Originally posted by a1hsauce
thats not what its about though...look at the word CHRISTMAS. and break it up...CHRIST...MASS. its about JC. it says so in the name.
Christmas.
Break this up:
1). Sheperds don't send their flock out in THE WINTER
2). Christ recieved Gifts on his birthday.
3). Christmas began as a Pagan Holiday "Adopted" by the Catholic Church.
Dating back to 336 A.D., Christmas was first celebrated in ancient Rome, around 300 years after Christ's birth. It was a popular Christian holiday until the Protestant Reformation in the 1500s. Because pagan customs had been enfolded into the religious observance, many Protestants chose not to celebrate it at all, including the American Puritans. In the rest of colonial America, Christmas was a raucous public holiday. Hunting, dancing, and feasting were the custom in the country, while city streets filled with enthusiastic celebrants.
While merchants count the shopping days until Christmas, it is also a time to share with those less fortunate. Collecting and donating warm clothing, toys, and food is as American as bell-ringing "Sidewalk Santas." It is the season to rejoice with friends, family, and community and dream of "peace on earth" and goodwill for all.
Originally posted by LiL nAstY GirL
Oh yeah? Then why do we go to Mass? And why at Mass do they talk about the birth of Christ and not mention presents at all?
Well technically everytime you go to mass you are reminded of Christ. Just this time they decided to light some candles and throw up some wreaths (not throw up like vomit, but throw the wreath up in decoration)
Originally posted by a1hsauce
then theyre celebrating it because of the twisted card companys.
Um, no.
Holy shit, how many times tonight will I have to say this?
It has very much been secularized over the years, and many people simply take it as a day to get together with family. Religion does NOT need to play into it in any way.
Originally posted by LiL nAstY GirL
Well, it is a religius holiday. If Jesus wasn't born then the Magi wouldn't have brought the gifts to him, resulting in no gifts today
You can celebrate it religiously then, but a lot of people don't.
Originally posted by LiL nAstY GirL
Well, it is a religius holiday. If Jesus wasn't born then the Magi wouldn't have brought the gifts to him, resulting in no gifts today
Well technically the gift giving comes from the "Santa Clause" who is based on a real saint (St. Nicholas) who lived in Turkey in the 4th century. Saint Nicholas was renowned for his generosity and love of children. According to historical sources, he would drop coins down the chimney to preserve his anonymity and the dignity of his recipients
Originally posted by AOR
Well technically the gift giving comes from the "Santa Clause" who is based on a real saint (St. Nicholas) who lived in Turkey in the 4th century. Saint Nicholas was renowned for his generosity and love of children. According to historical sources, he would drop coins down the chimney to preserve his anonymity and the dignity of his recipients
✅ many people celebrate St. Nicholas Day, which is December 6th. I remember in high school in German class my teacher would always bring in treats for us on that day.
Originally posted by Lana
Um, no.Holy shit, how many times tonight will I have to say this?
It has very much been secularized over the years, and many people simply take it as a day to get together with family. Religion does NOT need to play into it in any way.
You can celebrate it religiously then, but a lot of people don't.
Originally posted by AOR
Break this up:1). Sheperds don't send their flock out in [b]THE WINTER
2). Christ recieved Gifts on his birthday.
3). Christmas began as a Pagan Holiday "Adopted" by the Catholic Church.Dating back to 336 A.D., Christmas was first celebrated in ancient Rome, around 300 years after Christ's birth. It was a popular Christian holiday until the Protestant Reformation in the 1500s. Because pagan customs had been enfolded into the religious observance, many Protestants chose not to celebrate it at all, including the American Puritans. In the rest of colonial America, Christmas was a raucous public holiday. Hunting, dancing, and feasting were the custom in the country, while city streets filled with enthusiastic celebrants.
While merchants count the shopping days until Christmas, it is also a time to share with those less fortunate. Collecting and donating warm clothing, toys, and food is as American as bell-ringing "Sidewalk Santas." It is the season to rejoice with friends, family, and community and dream of "peace on earth" and goodwill for all. [/B]
Originally posted by LiL nAstY GirL
I understand celebrating it to be with family and stuff, but it is suppose to mean alot more than a day for presents.
Well, if you want it to mean more than that to you, then that's fine, but it doesn't to many people.
Originally posted by MC Mike
I'm an atheist. I "celebrate" it. Give/recieve gifts, the like. Fun stuff....try and stop me.
Also - "Christmas trees" were originally used during the Roman holiday of Saturnalia, therefore have nothing to do with "Christmas". Thought I'd point that out.
Happy Holidays. 😛
And Jesus wasn't even born in December, rather his birthday is sometime in early January I believe, but the 25th December was the date of a pagan holiday, so in the early days of Christianity when they were first trying to get followers, they adopted the holiday as Christmas to get those who followed the pagan holiday to convert 😛
Here's some more Holiday Info (btw A1 and Lil Nasty,I'm Catholic, so that you know.)
1. Christmas Greenery Ancient Egyptians used palm branches, while northern cultures preferred evergreens, to brighten the home during the winter. Continuing a custom that dates back to the 16th century, German immigrants were the first Americans to purchase and decorate Christmas trees, typically in the pine family.
2 Gift Giving Once frowned upon as a pagan custom dating back to the Romans, gift giving is an integral part of our Christmas tradition. Santa's alias, "Kriss Kringle," means Christ child in German, and referred to a medieval legend that the infant Jesus distributed presents.
3. Mistletoe Kissing Remember the following Norse fable the next time you sneak a smooch under the mistletoe: Frigga, goddess of love and beauty, wanted to make the world safe for her son, Balder. Everything on earth promised to do him no harm except the one plant Frigga overlooked, mistletoe. Loki, an evil spirit, made an arrow from the mistletoe's wood and killed Balder. Frigga's tears became the plant's white berries and revived her son. In her gratitude, Frigga promised to kiss anyone who passed under the mistletoe, just as we do today.
4. Candy Canes The striped confections we now love to crunch were once straight white sticks of sugar candy. In the 1600s, in Cologne, Germany, traditional folktales reveal that the candies were bent at the end to remind children of a shepherd's crook and to keep them quiet in church.
(I'm hitting the sack, Merry Christmas and Good Night)
Originally posted by LiL nAstY GirL
Thats just the values of people today, and I think its sad
Dear, not everyone in the world is religious. This has ALWAYS been the case. It has nothing to do with the values of people today, and I'll think you'll find that many people who are not religious are just as moral as those who are, even more so I've noticed.