KotOR 2 Debate

Wow. I go away for one hour and you have blatantly degenerated this thread.

How can you not see everything that was wrong with KOTOR 2? It wasnt long enough because LucasArts pushed the developers on their developing time, so a whole lotta content was missed out. This is basically the reason for the jumpy story and pace, undeveloped characters, hundreds of bugs, missing cutscenes etc. etc. etc.

There is a lot wrong with KOTOR 2. That is not to say its not a great game, it just lacks a lot which the original has. Of course there are certain improvements such as lightsaber styles and more feats/force powers but thats is only one side of the spectrum.

Now see I know whats wrong with the game but I try not to see it cause chances of me gettign it on an 800mhz pc on a game that requires 1ghz and a good video card are slim so I try not to see it cause what I see that I like I want.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
I have never been convinced that KOTOR II would have been that much better with more development time. I trhink what flaws it had were engrained deep. Ok, so the end was a mess due to time constraints, but all the IMPORTANT bits they wanted went in- and didn't work that great.

But lets have some perspective here- KOTOR II is FAR from a lousy game; you will have played far worse in your life. It certainly wasn't a waste of my money either. There are just issues.

OMFG this is Ush? Your harder then a catholic priest in a playground, and I bet you kow abot tha tlol.

lol that was a good one

I can't wait to see the consequences of that remark in the morning 😄

It has to be someone in need of BOOTING he has to have pissed off more people then me someone say yes I wouldnt think morons stand untreated

Originally posted by Darth Hawkeye
It has to be someone in need of BOOTING he has to have pissed off more people then me someone say yes I wouldnt think morons stand untreated

Please use standard grammar when using these forums. Thankyou.

Sorry.... Just a little ticked

Any reason?

This Sir guy is insluting everyone and ruining topics all together

Meh... he's American. The jokes on him.

HAHA good one exanda

Originally posted by exanda kane
Meh... he's American. The jokes on him.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Err... sorry, but everything Traya posted is just fluff. It still wouldn't have solved core problems KOTOR II had- unbalanced combat, repetitious plot, poor backgrounds, uninspired locations etc.

I don't think any amount of more stuff like that would have obscured these issues. KOTOR II was a poor advance from the original.

Compare the triumphant advance from BG to BGII- and this was at a fundamental level.

I seriously still without thinking about it.......Well if you didnt know they were rushed and parts were missing would you of said it was a bad game

Well come on admit it you wouldnt have anythign wrong to say about the game

does KOTOR and KOTOR II the sith lords both focus more detailed into lightsaber combat like with all the styles rather than just like battlefront where u have one button for attacking with the saber only one way?

When playing the game for the first time i completed without exploring half of the main plot, it felt empty and dull.

Originally posted by Darth Traya
What so these were not central to the plot?:

M4-78, an entire planet was cut!

Master Lonna Vash and her Padawan. They provided information on your force bond and possibly why you don't die when you kill Kreia on Malachor V.

Further exploration of the Sion-Nihilus relationship. It also displays Nihilus' power.

The Droid factory, which not only provided an extra three hours of gameplay but explained many things. Like the presence of the HK-51 in the mining base. It also provided some extra information on Revan too, and his motives.

The Malachor betrayals. It shows how Malachor V can corrupt people so quickly. Not only that, it adds further to the romance options, like Atton dying or whether or not you love Visas or the Handmaiden.

Atris as Darth Traya. It explained a lot about katarr, with Atris possibly having betrayed the Jedi at Katarr. Also, it showed that Kreia was not beyond redemption.

Extra lines for the Jedi Masters before Kreia kills them. Kreia tells them all about their respective failings.

The Genoharadan on Nar Shaddaa. You had to destroy them.

Extra lines for Canderous.

Extra lines for all of the party members.

Possible Handmaiden - Kreia relationship.

More ways to sacrafice Visas.

Lots more stuff for the endgame. More cutscenes and deliberating on wha the exile does after traya's defeat.

More inclusion of the locked navicomputer scene.

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That's only the tip of the iceberg anyway. Lots more things that were central to the plot were discarded.

I just finished KOTOR 2 for the first time, and yeah, i was really disappointed when it didn't all fit together like the first one did, I looked for hours for the owner of that stupid droid (i thought it was on Nar Shadaa though) I talked to HK47 and to M3 for a long time trying to solve the navicomputer thing,
The ending absolutely sucked, it looked like your entire party died, and then there is the ebon hawk picking you up. (what happened to the remote? it evidently was able to blow the planet up or something)

I never even saw canderous. where was he?
One thing that really made me mad is i looked forever for those stupid jedi masters, and then ten seconds after i go see them, they all die, that made me angry. more stuff too, but overall, it ended too quickly, it was too much like the first one, and for the most part, it was way too easy.
thoughts anyone?
one last thing, what happens if you kill the wookie with the girl on malachar 5? i lost the first time, and accidently saved instead of loading.

I think KOTOR 2 was a great game, but it has its several share of problems

One problem were the plot holes. I mean at one point in Peragus when your escaping, Kreia all of a sudden shows up on the ship, with no explanation on how she got there.

Also Bao Dur (a really cool character) and Mandalore (badass) don't say enough.

Malachore 5 was ANTI CLIMATIC. I mean what happened to my party? The relationship with handmaiden was poorly done. I liked how in KOTOR you could every so often talk to Bastila and as time passes she would have new things to say. With KOTOR 2 that has just completely dissapeared.