Ultimate Juggernaut vs Colossus & Thing from 616 Earth

Ultimate Juggernaut

Ultimate Juggernaut. Art by Tom Raney.In the Ultimate Marvel continuity, Juggernaut was apparently a mutant drafted into the Weapon X Program. He did not appear to be the indestructible, mystically empowered villain from Earth 616, but rather a mutant with superhuman strength comparable to Colossus. His real name has not yet been revealed, and he was liberated from servitude when the Weapon X Program was terminated by Nick Fury and S.H.I.E.L.D.. Recently, in the Ultimate X-Men 2005 annual, Juggernaut was bonded with a gem stolen by Rogue and Gambit called the Cyttorak Gem. Though its full repercussions are unknown, Juggernaut did describe himself as feeling "better than ever

Colossus 616 or Thing 616 could take him alone....he's had a major downgrade from his 616 version....he's even weaker than the current 616 Jobbernaut.... he got knocked out by a few hundred gurders being dropped on him....i mean c'mon that's pathetic....

I don't see how If he is in fact at Colossus level of strength before he becomes Juggernaut imagine his strength now.

In a versus debate, I don't think imagination is canon.

Did you read the info from Wikipedia. Cain Marko was regular strength before he became Juggernaut. But when he became the Juggernaut then he was able to give 616 Hulk Thor a hell of a fight even might say he could beat them. Now if this Mutant has strength comparable to Colossus Imagine what his strength his after he also got the Gems of cyttroak.

"the Mutant who is the Ultimate Juggernaut Tom Raney.In the Ultimate Marvel continuity, Juggernaut was apparently a mutant drafted into the Weapon X Program. He did not appear to be the indestructible, mystically empowered villain from Earth 616, but rather a mutant with superhuman strength comparable to Colossus"

Trust me he wasnt on Colossus lv, he might be now but he wasnt before.

If he had even Spider-Mans strength he would still be stronger the Classic Juggernaut

You mean Current Juggs, golem?

And yea, either 616 Colossus or 616 Thing could take Ultimate Juggernaut. I was quite upset with him getting KOed by the falling gurders. Pretty lame if you ask me.

Not current Juggernaut Ultimate Juggernaut.

When did Ultimate Juggernaut get K.O by falling girders. Cause in the Annual I didn't see Juggernaut lying around I just assumed he hightailed it.

Originally posted by golem370
Did you read the info from Wikipedia. Cain Marko was regular strength before he became Juggernaut. But when he became the Juggernaut then he was able to give 616 Hulk Thor a hell of a fight even might say he could beat them. Now if this Mutant has strength comparable to Colossus Imagine what his strength his after he also got the Gems of cyttroak.

"the Mutant who is the Ultimate Juggernaut Tom Raney.In the Ultimate Marvel continuity, Juggernaut was apparently a mutant drafted into the Weapon X Program. He did not appear to be the indestructible, mystically empowered villain from Earth 616, but rather a mutant with superhuman strength comparable to Colossus"

For all we know, the gem could of given him some kind of regeneration and that's why he feels so great.

Does anyone else besides me and DarkCrawler notices that Golem makes threads rampantly?

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
In a versus debate, I don't think imagination is canon.

Originally posted by DrDoom101
Does anyone else besides me and DarkCrawler notice that Golem makes relatively crap threads rampantly?

Originally posted by DrDoom101
Does anyone else besides me and DarkCrawler notices that Golem makes threads rampantly?

Originally posted by DrDoom101
Does anyone else besides me and DarkCrawler notices that Golem makes threads rampantly?