Darth Revan runs the gauntlet

Started by ArthasKnight3 pages
Originally posted by kamikz
Wait, did ANAKIN control a STAR???? I didn't get that.

Taken from Wikipedia:

"Later on, during Obi-Wan's obsessive search for Asajj Ventress, Durge was finally killed by Anakin Skywalker, who Force-pushed him into an escape pod and shot him into a star."

Like I said: In Obsession issue 3: Anakin tossed a helluva lot of explosives at Durge, then tricked him into an escape pod while he was mad with rage and woozy from the explosives and guided the pod into the star

Revan gets several ships for this? And Durge doesn't have limbs, he has gelatanious, regeneration mass he forms into limbs. The time it takes for Revan to go for one arm, the other arm is around his neck...or Durge is in the ait in a jetpack, using that vast weaponry.
Plus, Durge's body would just leap back together....Revan would have to peel off his armor, get through those beam shields he uses...The FAR MORE LIKELY outcome is Revan being killed.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Revan gets several ships for this? And Durge doesn't have limbs, he has gelatanious, regeneration mass he forms into limbs. The time it takes for Revan to go for one arm, the other arm is around his neck...or Durge is in the ait in a jetpack, using that vast weaponry.
Plus, Durge's body would just leap back together....Revan would have to peel off his armor, get through those beam shields he uses...The FAR MORE LIKELY outcome is Revan being killed.

Or Revan freezing him...

And Revan'll have a portable carbon freezing unit? Maybe he'll try the force which doesn't work on Durge?

Cryoban grenades freeze. Revan's not restricted to using the Force and his lightsaber.

Originally posted by ArthasKnight
As for the video game being the end all be all of information on Revan, yes this is true. And why? Because Revan is a video game character. Where else do you expect us to get our information? At least we have a source of proof, Lightsnake. Where's yours exactly? Show me something that isn't your n00bish "OMG DURGE IS TEH R0X0RZ!!"

What proof? And he is just asking how Revan can realistically take an invincible opponent.

Revan loses at Qui Gon because he doesn't know how to jump, only has a few basic attack patterns that he uses randomly, and can't counter force powers.

But wait, Revan can carry around thousands of pounds of equipment without being encumbered, but I don't think that will help him enough.

Ok well in that case then Revan can take about 40 lightsaber hits to the head so then he wins anyway.

I think he simply meant the facts that comes from the video game, not the gameplay itself.

Cryoban grenades which last a few seconds? And Durge would just shrug off his armor. Or dodge the grenade. Clones have lobbed them that him before.

And Durge can pretty much fly with his jetpack...

Whats it matter? Revan can't jump. He doesn't know how (except on rare occasions). From Kotor a few things are definite, he beats Malak at the end, definite. Carth joins him, definite. He doesn't jump when not in combat, and can't, definite.

By the way, Revan always waits a few seconds and does nothing after he attacks, straight from Kotor.

On a more serious note, Revan doesn't do anything really impressive in KOTOR. Who's to say someone like... I dunno, Asaaj Ventress couldn't do the same things he did with ease.

Then I guess Mace Windu can't eat nor piss, and Obi-Wan can't die of age.

Oh so the people Vader killed/defeated were far more impressive (Luke with about 2-3 days of experience, some random jedi knights). Malak had defeated the most powerful jedi master during that time. Malak was a legendary swordsman and had awesome power in the force, still, Revan defeated him even though Malak had his power boosted by the star forge, and draining jedi to regain his health.
In a Sith Lords vision, you can see Malak lying dead while Revan stands beside him with his lightsaber egnited, so he killed him in a straight fight. (Someone has that pic).

Kreia said herself that "looking at Revan was like looking into the hearth of the force".

Originally posted by jollyjim311
What proof? And he is just asking how Revan can realistically take an invincible opponent.

Revan loses at Qui Gon because he doesn't know how to jump, only has a few basic attack patterns that he uses randomly, and can't counter force powers.

But wait, Revan can carry around thousands of pounds of equipment without being encumbered, but I don't think that will help him enough.

Wow, way to completely misinterpret what I said. Congrats.

I meant that KotOR is our only source of information about Revan because he doesn't appear in any other EU, isn't in the movies, and there are no books written about him. Obviously, Revan has more than the gameplay you see in the game.

The restraints of the game, much like the restraints of the cinematography at the time Episode IV was filmed, restrict what abilities we see characters use. Obviously, we know Vader is capable of much more than simple parries and strikes, but we don't see it in Episode IV. So, therefore, we know that Revan is capable of so much more than what gameplay allows. Consider the cutscene we see with Revan preparing to take on Bastila. He twirls his lightsaber, and you can't make him do that in the game can you?

And since when is body armor, gloves, a cybernetic implant, a personal shield unit or two, a visor, a belt, and a weapon thousands of pounds of equipment? And have you ever heard of Force jump? If Revan's a guardian, he certainly can jump. Quite a distance, if I recall correctly.

And obviously Revan can counter Force powers. They're called saving throws. Ever played KotOR? Basic knowledge right there. And Durge is far from invincible. He died, end of story. And I simply asked where Lightsnake was getting his information because, for all I know, he's getting ideas out of thin air.

So, Lightsnake, could you please provide a source for me? Whatever comic you mentioned I don't have so could you suggest another source? Thanks.

Durge died after being launched into a STAR. He's survived being blown up from the inside out...And the sources: Clone Wars Volume 2, Clone Wars Volume 7 and other notes on Durge from numerous sources, including Star Wars Visionaries. Durge's appearances are....a bit limited. In Volume 7, Durge says that to him, all the Jedi move in slow motion. And by his own admission, he's killed a LOT of Jedi. It's his greatest pleasure, minus whacking Mandalorians. A lot of Durge was revealed on the boards by his creators.

And twirling one's lightsaber does not equal power, especially when one is trapped and cornered and outnumbered. Durge is very nearly invincible. Very nearly

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Durge died after being launched into a STAR. He's survived being blown up from the inside out...And the sources: Clone Wars Volume 2, Clone Wars Volume 7 and other notes on Durge from numerous sources, including Star Wars Visionaries. Durge's appearances are....a bit limited. In Volume 7, Durge says that to him, all the Jedi move in slow motion. And by his own admission, he's killed a LOT of Jedi. It's his greatest pleasure, minus whacking Mandalorians. A lot of Durge was revealed on the boards by his creators.

And twirling one's lightsaber does not equal power, especially when one is trapped and cornered and outnumbered. Durge is very nearly invincible. Very nearly

You missed my point as well. My point was that the gameply does not reveal all of Revan's potential. The cutscene with the twirling lightsaber was simply an example.

I really don't think that's any sort of indication of power, though.

Its not supposed to be, its just supposed to show that Revan can do more things then he did in the game, fighting wise.

And it succeeds how?

Oh for the love of...

Look. Someone was going on about how Revan can only do things that the gameplay (feats, attacks, Force powers, etc.) would allow. I gave an example to disprove that. See?

Sheesh, how hard is that to understand?