The truth about Post Crisis Supes

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Blair wind who pulled your chain bud there are many definitions of gods in comicdom not THE God of most high isnt Thor, Hercules,ODin, Zeus, etc considered gods?In comics they do use the term god loosely I was merely stating Sky father level, gods I would call supes one of them with his feats thats my Opinon. I could be wrong but I vaguely remember a meeting of the "GODs" to discuss should superman exist because of his strength which made him a threat I'm sure someone could help me on that I will check on that...

lol sorry, its just in the superman forums there was this guy who thought Superman was the ACTUAL God....like the one and only.....just read your post right after his and went a little over board....sorry...

no prob bro its cool I understand what you mean..

Originally posted by chris_64256
Blair wind who pulled your chain bud there are many definitions of gods in comicdom not THE God of most high isnt Thor, Hercules,ODin, Zeus, etc considered gods?In comics they do use the term god loosely I was merely stating Sky father level, gods I would call supes one of them with his feats thats my Opinon. I could be wrong but I vaguely remember a meeting of the "GODs" to discuss should superman exist because of his strength which made him a threat I'm sure someone could help me on that I will check on that...
The Linear Men had him on trial post Our World's at War before The Quintessence for being too powerful of an entity, apperently his mere passing can sigificantly alter the timestream and change the multiverse. Steel saved him in the Aegis Armor. Spectre was his "lawyer". ๐Ÿ˜„

And, even the Guardians considered the Kryptonians godlike.

If he's going to be this powerful, he needs a new Energy source .... the entire energy out put of the sun isn't capable of some of these feats !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is more like 'a million exploding suns' power.

I have no problems with him being this uber, as Sentry seems to be on a similar 'near Sky father' level. Superman is regularly seen fighting beings who are on a DC cosmic level. Alot of you will argue that he isn't at a 'near sky father level' but his feats dwarf many of Odin's and King Thor's, most impressive accomplishments ! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚

Thanks juntai for info on that I couldnt remeber exactly what happened but thanks again for the help and people in here dont think hes skyfather level or above makes me laugh...

Re: The truth about Post Crisis Supes

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Courtesy of user Kyle_Rayner from Gaia Online. (big thanks Kyle)

Time to shut up a few people on this forum. ๐Ÿ˜‰

In Superman Man of Steel #66, he once again acted as an effective shield, protecting cities around the world by blocking numerous "atom-smashing" force beams with his body. At one point he had 6 such beams trained on him simultaneously.

In Adventures of Superman #581, Superman allowed Adversary, a powerful magical foe, to hit him as hard as he could, without retaliation. Superman was literally punched halfway across the planet- from Metropolis, he literally landed in China- without any injury or loss of consciousness

But forget about being punched across the planet to China, how about through the planet to China? In Superman #181, Superman and Bizarro (his magically-created, brain damaged, "imperfect" duplicate) switched bodies. Superman (in Bizarro's body) punched Bizarro (in Superman's body) completely through the Earth and out the other end. Bizarro (in Superman's body) was slammed in through the ground in Metropolis and came out two panels later in China. He was shown ripping straight through the Earth?s crust, mantle, and core, and coming out on the other side of the planet. Superman's body was fully conscious and completely unharmed by the blow (Bizarro was smiling as usual).

In Man of Tomorrow #13, Superman harmlessly shrugged off a blast from Orion's Astro-Harness that blasted him across the planet from the North Pole to India.

Action Comics # 762: Superman harmlessly shrugged off a blow from the magical demon Etrigan. The blow actually knocked Superman from Earth's surface all the way to the moon (239,000 miles), a distance that is about 10 times the diameter of the Earth. Superman was virtually unfazed. In this issue he also shrugged off magical demon-fire (which he did previously in Action #589), and his super-lungs harmlessly inhaled the demon's magical gases.

In Superman/Doomsday: Hunter/Prey, Superman survived, at ground zero, a blast equal to "a million nuclear bombs" (according to the energy being Waverider). The explosion was caused by the destruction of the power generator for the entire planet of Calaton; the energy was drawn from the planetary core. Superman did not suffer any physical damage, but was momentarily rendered inert, and stated that he felt concussed. He then got up and boxed a little more with Doomsday, who also survived the blast.

In Adventures of Superman #478, as part of the Time and Time Again storyline, Superman survived- without so much as batting an eye- the nuclear destruction of the entire moon in the year 2995. The moon had been lined with sufficient nuclear devices to disintegrate it in one shot. When the moon was obliterated, Superman was actually within the moon (structures had been built beneath the surface of the moon). He did not suffer any harm and did not lose consciousness.

Superman's ability to survive immersion in the sun is well documented by now. In Adventures of Superman #480, Superman survived immersion in the sun for the first time, but with great difficulty. This was actually a RED sun at the time, due to the Eradicator's interference. In both the Superman: Last God of Krypton one shot and Superman Man of Steel #50, Superman survived immersion in the outer layers of the Earth's yellow sun enjoyably, received extra power from the sun, and effortlessly escaped the sun?s gravitational pull. Furthermore, in both Action Comics # 782 and Superman Man of Steel #64, Superman survived the core of the sun without any problems. The pressure at the core of the sun is equal to 250 billion Earth atmospheres.

In JLA #41, Superman absorbed the energy of the Mageddon Warhead, a device capable, at the minimum, of vaporizing half a galaxy. Writer Grant Morrison intended Mageddon to be "the primordial annihilator" capable of literally destroying everything. Visibly distressed by the absorption, Superman still suffered no harm whatsoever, and even smiled afterwards.

Man of Steel #30: Standing on Earth's surface, Superman punched Lobo into orbit and beyond with one uppercut.

Adventure of Superman #473: From Earth, Superman threw an alien space craft clear of Earth?s gravity and into outer space. This craft was larger than an aircraft carrier and over a mile long (a typical aircraft carrier is about a 1/4 of a mile long and weighs about 100,000 tons, so this ship was about 4x that size)

Several events show Superman as a moon-mover. In JLA # 7, as Electro-Superman, he halted the fall of the Moon towards Earth (caused by Neron's magical machinations), then moved the Moon back its proper position in orbit. He later commented that he's more powerful as "regular" Superman. Writer Grant Morrison and artist Howard Porter had originally intended the moon-moving event in JLA #7 be done by "regular" Superman , but DC forced them to use Electro-Supes. This event is butressed by several more. In JLA: The Century War, ancient "alchemical engines" were causing the moon to fall towards the Earth. Superman and Green Lantern took turns holding the moon back against the "geometrically increasing force" that was causing it to fall. Superman got the last "moon-bracing" shift. In Superman Man of Steel #30, Superman grabbed, easily broke the forward movement of, and easily threw in the opposite direction, a space ship the size of a small moon. In JLA # 58, Superman , Wonder Woman and Green Lantern collaborated to tow Earth's moon a distance of 238,900 miles in mere seconds, indicating a fantastic acceleration, and then pulled the moon out of Earth's gravity (which increases its weight tremendously). As he is universally regarded as the JLA's most powerful member, I'm inclined to give Superman more than one-third, and - conservatively - about one-half, the work effort. In the Lex 2000 special, with a single strike, Superman split one of Saturn's moons in half. Saturn's moons are small moons.

Action Comics #782: After emerging from the sun energized, Superman physically pushed WarWorld, (a small, Pluto-sized planet) across the solar system and into a boom tube. WarWorld did engage a "full throttle countermeasure" in resistance Superman?s push. We can see WarWorld's engines (which encompass nearly an entire hemisphere of WarWorld's surface) firing in resistance, to no avail. WarWorld's engines allow WarWorld to travel at faster than light speeds through space, so they generate the power to accelerate a planet beyond light speed. "How is he moving my planet! The Kryptonian does not have that power!" Braniac's disbelief is reasonable since WarWorld's engines had no shortage of power ; WarWorld had just pirated the energy of Imperiex - energy gleaned from the devouring of many galaxies. (Hence Imperiex's reputation as the "Devourer of Galaxies."๐Ÿ˜‰ Please note that Superman was energized beyond his usual power levels at this time.

Action Comics Annual #7: Fighting in space, Superman successfully resisted the pull from a black hole that had opened up directly below (inches from) his feet. The miniature black hole had been induced by advanced alien (Ht'ros) war technology.

Superman #13: Flew around the equator in a matter of seconds, indicating a speed of well over 1,000,000 mph, or roughly 1350 times the speed of sound.

Man of Steel #110: Standing in one spot, Superman used his super speed to vibrate his body invisible.

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...all the above, and everything following in that next post...

Thor fans not gonna be happy 'bout this.

(Expect to see their fave pic now, y'know, the one with the hammer...)

Re: Re: The truth about Post Crisis Supes

Originally posted by Mindship
...all the above, and everything following in that next post...

Thor fans not gonna be happy 'bout this.

(Expect to see their fave pic now, y'know, the one with the hammer...)

Yeah im suprised a certain memeber hasn't already posted it (cough !cough ! Sentry cough!) ๐Ÿ™‚

Originally posted by chris_64256
Thanks juntai for info on that I couldnt remeber exactly what happened but thanks again for the help and people in here dont think hes skyfather level or above makes me laugh...

Me too, his feats are so above most Marvel characters it's not funny.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Me too, his feats are so above most Marvel characters it's not funny.

He's above everyone short of Thanos ! ๐Ÿ™‚

The point of superman being too powerful was also addressed in an issue of action comics that was to supposed to have taken place post crisis, when superman was a teenager, just beginning to realize his power. It was an issue where the Quintessence gathered to decide if he, teenage Clark Kent should be allowed to grow up, where he would become Superman.

One of the Quintessence, Zeus I think it was, said that he was(clark Kent as a teen and several years before he first became superman) already as powerful as Highfather's New Gods and Zeus fellow Olympians.

They put him through as test that all took place in the mind of teenage clark kent, but was actually a real assessment of what would actually happen( people response if they found out at the time in that small town that he was an alien, the fight with some super heroes-JSA members) and the meeting of the Quintessence also actually took place.

It was their desire to either completely kill of the race of kryptonians in the mainstream dc universe or allow clark to finish growing up and become superman.

They would allow this based on how he would handle the test by the Quintessence, which was taking place through a dream but was a true assessment of Clark's power and character. For they have said in the beginning of the matter that he was a threat, since he didn't have godly awareness to temper his power, but farm boy reasoning.

It was stated by Zeus or Gantlet, that with his power, teenage clark kent, could take over the world by himself because of reaching the point when all his abilities were manifesting themselves("He is beginning to realize his Power", This is what Zeus says).

In the end He passed the test, the Quintessence all agreed that he has a fine character which would enable him to use his great power justly and by control. Gantlet says with a big smile on his face, after he tells clark to awake out of this cosmic dream meant to sufficiently test clark's power-physical and Mental(Character) that the world has found its Superman.

Originally posted by Fishy 500
He's above everyone short of Thanos ! ๐Ÿ™‚

Surfer takes him any day of the week, provided it ends in 'y'.

Supes is hella powerful though... Don't read most of his stuff (teehee ๐Ÿ˜ฎ ) but apparently I should.

If you call supez too powerful then why do you adore SS ??

Originally posted by Dizzle
Surfer takes him any day of the week, provided it ends in 'y'.

Supes is hella powerful though... Don't read most of his stuff (teehee ๐Ÿ˜ฎ ) but apparently I should.

Surfer Takes him as does Radioactive man and some one with kryptonite, but Superman has more Raw power ! The consistency of his feats are superior.

B4 u make brash judgements based on the anti DC/Superman 'universal' assessments of everyone on this forum, try thinking for ones self and evaluate the evidence in question.

If one is able to provide a list with feats that ARE CLEARLY on the same level of power, i will agree that the Surfer is maybe more powerful. But i have yet to see any list ! The feats i have seen performed by the Surfer, seem ambiguous at best !

People on this forum tend to generally post pics of Surfer blasting energy beams from his eyes and hands, while proclaiming that 'Surfer could rape Superman' ..... Does these often feeble attempts really indicate that Surfer is beyond Superman ? .... I don't think so ! ๐Ÿ˜‰

How unbelievably boring...an undefeatable character....awesome ๐Ÿ˜

Originally posted by Bardock42
How unbelievably boring...an undefeatable character....awesome ๐Ÿ˜

And yet he's probably the third most popular character ever .... Its nice to have you back !

Originally posted by Fishy 500
And yet he's probably the third most popular character ever .... Its nice to have you back !
He's the most KNOWN, but Batman is the most popular. Who do you think is second?

Originally posted by Juntai
He's the most KNOWN, but Batman is the most popular. Who do you think is second?

Its got to be spiderman / Wolverine hasn't it ... Im not to sure , im not really into street levelers ! ๐Ÿ™‚

Originally posted by Fishy 500
And yet he's probably the third most popular character ever .... Its nice to have you back !

Oh of course he is...I mean he is well...interesting somehow...just not my thing. I liked it when he wasn't a god though. I mean the time between Doomsday and Energy Supes.

Originally posted by Juntai
He's the most KNOWN, but Batman is the most popular. Who do you think is second?

Has to be Spidey. Although i don't know US Sales. Where can one look that up.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh of course he is...I mean he is well...interesting somehow...just not my thing. I liked it when he wasn't a god though. I mean the time between Doomsday and Energy Supes.

Has to be Spidey. Although i don't know US Sales. Where can one look that up.

I've been reading some of your posts on the Superman worst character thread .... I disagree , i thinks it quite cool him being God, to a certain level ! ๐Ÿ™‚