Originally posted by samisheMy point is that wolverine has upgrades, whereas ryu had training of his OWN... that means if you were to give him an upgrade... well...
Of course he can't with bare hands and he has no need for that. You can't just take away his claws, because without them it willn't be wolverine anymore. It's like taking from Ryu his Karate skills.
You don't just get superhuman skills.
Ryu doesnt fight karate shotokan , he fights ansatsuken (fists of death) the strongest and oldest art of fighting , there isnt any martial arts that is even near ansatsuken.
Tech:Ryus tech is the strongest of them all.
Fire power: Ryu can destroy mountains
Strengh:ryu and spider are equally matched since ryu can kick cars like they are toys , and so does spider.
Agility😖pider , no question here
Speed😖pider , but by a very small difference , since ryu just like spider , can dodge bullets with ease and has a 6th sense very powerfull, the difference is that spider just received the power while ryu was training hard to get it.
Exp:wolvi and ryu , but as samishe said , wolvi is used on killing , murdering , not necessary with his own ability , wolvi trained with guns , secret missions and stuff , while ryu was training duels.
Toughness:Wolvi , thanks to his healing factor , but ryu and spider are very tough too , ryu doesnt have healing factor , but sometimes , with only his will power he manage to continue fighting , even when his body is almost destroyed.
Long range :Ryu , no doubt about it , wolvi doesnt have any long range move, spider has his web , but ryus hadouken would blow it as it was made of butter.Ryu can fire his hadouken very fast if he want.
Probaly wolvi wouldnt be able to do much about the other two , but it would be very difficult for spider and ryu to kill him , so I think he would end up jailed with spiders web.
Ryu , after a great fight would win against spider.
Originally posted by Hoshi
Ryu doesnt fight karate shotokan , he fights ansatsuken (fists of death) the strongest and oldest art of fighting , there isnt any martial arts that is even near ansatsuken.
Tech:Ryus tech is the strongest of them all.
Fire power: Ryu can destroy mountains
Strengh:ryu and spider are equally matched since ryu can kick cars like they are toys , and so does spider.
Agility😖pider , no question here
Speed😖pider , but by a very small difference , since ryu just like spider , can dodge bullets with ease and has a 6th sense very powerfull, the difference is that spider just received the power while ryu was training hard to get it.
Exp:wolvi and ryu , but as samishe said , wolvi is used on killing , murdering , not necessary with his own ability , wolvi trained with guns , secret missions and stuff , while ryu was training duels.
Toughness:Wolvi , thanks to his healing factor , but ryu and spider are very tough too , ryu doesnt have healing factor , but sometimes , with only his will power he manage to continue fighting , even when his body is almost destroyed.
Long range :Ryu , no doubt about it , wolvi doesnt have any long range move, spider has his web , but ryus hadouken would blow it as it was made of butter.Ryu can fire his hadouken very fast if he want.Probaly wolvi wouldnt be able to do much about the other two , but it would be very difficult for spider and ryu to kill him , so I think he would end up jailed with spiders web.
Ryu , after a great fight would win against spider.
I wish I could develop the sixth sense by training. 😄
Originally posted by shin_remy
then still ryu wins.sipdey is nothing without his webs!
ryu still has his Shin Shoryuken, shinkuu tatsumaki senpuu kyaku, and very powerfull Super TTacks and powerfull Normal attacks
spidey can still jump dodge climb, evade run punch kick etc even without his webs.
without there projectiles attack they would both most likley dodge each others attacks until one of them got lucky knock out punch in.
Originally posted by samishe
Thanx to his spider sense and reflexes he has just as many chances to ko Ryu as Ryu to ko spidey.
agreed they both have around the same chances of hitting each other.
Though considering they both have sixth senses,great reflexives,great strength,great speed,and smarts it might take a while before anyone of them ever lands a hit on the other.
Originally posted by Black Adam
agreed they both have around the same chances of hitting each other.Though considering they both have sixth senses,great reflexives,great strength,great speed,and smarts it might take a while before anyone of them ever lands a hit on the other.
Agreed, in this case who win depends on the situation.
In fist fight no one of them have any advantage.
Originally posted by samishe
Agreed, in this case who win depends on the situation.In fist fight no one of them have any advantage.
true, but if both of them have the same chances of hitting each other the guy who is can focus better will win , and although spider has a strong will and focus power , in these two points ryu is far superior.
Originally posted by Hoshi
true, but if both of them have the same chances of hitting each other the guy who is can focus better will win , and although spider has a strong will and focus power , in these two points ryu is far superior.
What do you mean "focus"? This is what spider reflexes are for. I'm still agree about Ryu's will, but when Spider-man in fight his will is also something incradible. Never mind how many hits he gets he still keeps fighting.
Shin Shoryuken
let spidy dodge Shinkuuu Tatsu maki senpuuu kyaku
even akuma get a hit from that attack. it goes to fast en the kicks are deadly.
it is also about the way the characters are. the personality. thats why main characters like, goku, ryu, naruto for example always win. cause they have will to win. they will not give up till he wins!!
spidey has that NOT!! if you denie that youre a lunatic!!!
ryu is far more supiriour than the both of the 2. and this thread is done before!!!
Check this out, from Spidey respect thread.
Originally posted by samishe
Thats your point? He owns him because you love him? And believe me Spidey dodges Shinkuuu Tatsu maki senpuuu kyaku for ease.
about shin remys argument ...i agree with you samishee , he isnt giving any real reason.
See my point, the spider sense work as a 6ths sense , not as a "focus" power , spider has an incredible will power, but ...ryu as you already said is superior in will power.Ryu also have a 6th sense, so , focus is the ability of concentration in a fight, spider sense is a power that allow him to predict the enemies moves.
Spider may be able to dodge Shinkuuu Tatsu maki senpuuu kyaku , but not easily , it is not much saying that when ryu uses all of his strengh the speed of his kicks are just like sound speed or maybe more.
i don't like ryu, i hate him acctualy. i have seen nobody with the same will as ryu. thats why i think he will win!! it is unmatched.
in cartoons, you see spidey lose always, and it are always his brains who help him out, or he escapes think of something and comes back when he has a idea!!!
spidey is strong i admit that and he is better in certain things then ryu and but still ryu is far more surpirour.
Probably you righ, Ryu has a will advantage in h2h fight. But see this is not only about strength speed etc. Ryu always fights with honour, i mean he always fights with his bare hands while spider-man when facing powerfull enemyes uses not only his fighting skills but also different tricks, this is his other advantage in fight.
