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God loves you - He's going to kill you
The Rapture - Are those people who do not go to church, are not baptised, gay, believe in evolution and science over God's creation damned, have they through not accepting Heaven by proxy accepted Hell. By turning their back on the Lords Love embraced Satan.
At Christmas we should think about Jessus more - or not?
are you going to heaven or hell.
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
The Rapture - Are those people who do not go to church, are not baptised, gay, believe in evolution and science over God's creation damned, have they through not accepting Heaven by proxy accepted Hell. By turning their back on the Lords Love embraced Satan.At Christmas we should think about Jessus more - or not?
are you going to heaven or hell.
Re: God loves you - He's going to kill you
Originally posted by Sir WhirlysplatWhooooooo religious talk in the GF...how special..
The Rapture - Are those people who do not go to church, are not baptised, gay, believe in evolution and science over God's creation damned, have they through not accepting Heaven by proxy accepted Hell. By turning their back on the Lords Love embraced Satan.At Christmas we should think about Jessus more - or not?
are you going to heaven or hell.
The Idea of "Christ" is based on myth, and the whole idea of a rapture, is made up by man. It was never taught in early church history. It only came about with the teachings of Darby which were later written down by Scholfield and put in as notes in the Scholfield bible...It is a newer teaching. It is heavily depended on a verse in 2 Thess, I think it is, in the "Catching away"...totally out of context and grouped together with the symbolic verse from Rev. With the speaker (John) saying..." I looked and was taken up to heaven"...being taken literal as though it meant a secret rapture kind of thing.
Re: Re: God loves you - He's going to kill you
Originally posted by debbiejo
Whooooooo religious talk in the GF...how special..The Idea of "Christ" is based on myth, and the whole idea of a rapture, is made up by man. It was never taught in early church history. It only came about with the teachings of Darby which were later written down by Scholfield and put in as notes in the Scholfield bible...It is a newer teaching. It is heavily depended on a verse in 2 Thess, I think it is, in the "Catching away"...totally out of context and grouped together with the symbolic verse from Rev. With the speaker (John) saying..." I looked and was taken up to heaven"...being taken literal as though it meant a secret rapture kind of thing.
So you don't think the rapture is coming then Bebs.
Re: Re: Re: God loves you - He's going to kill you
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
So you don't think the rapture is coming then Bebs.
NO I don't. It's teachings are just the latest fads in the church..The older teachings were just the 2nd coming. The church doesn't want to think of it's self as going through a tribulation and so says, "Why would Jesus take for himself a battered and torn bride"...So, of course they invent this secret rapture to ease what my come their way...Forgetting about the inquisition and all the earlier Christians went through. It is totally taken out of context..In fact most of prophecy is taken out of context just as it has been though out history....
It's historical
Acceptance of the doctrine is based upon a passage in Paul' s first letter to the Thessalonians:
The Lord himself ...will descend from heaven, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive ...will be caught up in the clouds together with them to meet the Lord in the air. (1 Thessalonians 4:15-17)
Yep, that's the verse. Though it was taken as meaning that this happened at Christs resurrection, for many people claimed to have seen him, and graves were opened and the earthquake, and others who had also witnessed others who have died and been resurrected written in gospels not mentioned in the cannon....This is also a time where it is said that Jesus visited hell/hades and preached to the dead, and delivered those who died before his birth and death and made the choice to serve him, believing him.
The teaching that the Church--in whole or in part--will be caught up to heaven before the reign of the man of sin, the anti-Christ, did not appear in church history until the early part of the 1800's.
Neither any of the early church fathers, neither the early saints like Augustine of the Coptic church and Ephraim of the Syriac church, neither later church writers taught this' doctrine. Neither did the early church creeds of modern times before the 1800's teach this doctrine. On the contrary, when they referred to the last days of the Church, they said that the Church would continue on earth to the end of the reign of the anti-Christ.
http://www.nccg.org/nccm/history-rapture.html
^taken from another christian site...
It's myth just as in other myths...doctrine can be so confusing..all stemming from one myth to another.
Looking at the different denominations views in regard to all the myths dispels the delusion of what being taught today.
Christians don't want to go through a tribulation, so a search and study pulling certain scriptures to fit an ideology happens, infact at the end of the 1st millennium people were selling all they had to send the gospel out and live a certain unselfish life was bigger than it is now at the 2000 ad time....1000 ad was much more aggressive.