Darth Sidious vs. Darth Vader (both ROTJ)

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Darth Sidious vs. Darth Vader (both ROTJ)

The setting: the execution arena on Geonosis. Both are armed with their lightsabers.

Sidious, he's got lightning, which Vader doesn't have.

Lucas has stated that at this time Vader's only 80% of the Emperor.

80% of the Emperor about what?

Sidious. Vader is still too strongheaded and Sidious can manipulate his feelings.

Sidious. More powerful.

Originally posted by Twilight Janick
80% of the Emperor about what?

He is 80% as strong as Sidious.

Lightsaber skills alone will do.

Originally posted by Twilight Janick
Lightsaber skills alone will do.

Say what?

I am inclined to say that Sids still might win in terms of sabers. While Vader becomes much weaker at lightsaber combat from ROTS to ROTJ, Sids is still probably the same, or maybe a bit weaker. This is due to the fact that Sids hasn't undergone anything, and age is not a factor. And ROTS Sids took on Yoda and tied (even though I would say Yoda could have won had he not fallen), while I think ROTS Anakin would lose to the wise Jedi Master.

Conclusion: Sidious takes it.

There is a book where the Emperor, after Vader disagrees with him, takes a grasp around his neck and prevents him from breathing, taking him to his knees. Palpatine would take this easy.

he only needs the lightning, it tampers with vaders suit, and kills him easily.

Originally posted by Twilight Janick
Lightsaber skills alone will do.
Lightsaber skills don't exist. Only midicholorean count explain all wich is basically like the powerlevels. Vader is 80% of Sidious' powerlevel so that will tell you all.

And Darth Vader is a very bad fighter anyway because he didn't learn further after he got teh suit and can't even keep up his arms anymore.

Bull crap, in Dark Lord: the rise of Darth Vader , vader demonstrates some pretty impressive abilities, and if palpatine choked vader to his knees, its because vader let him, Vader could of caved palpys skull in with his fist for Gods sake.

Power levels don't quite explain who is better at lightsaber wielding than others.

Originally posted by Darth243
Bull crap, in Dark Lord: the rise of Darth Vader , vader demonstrates some pretty impressive abilities, and if palpatine choked vader to his knees, its because vader let him, Vader could of caved palpys skull in with his fist for Gods sake.

Palpy gets stronger, while Vader gets weaker.

Why Palpatine didn't fight in ROTJ?

Cause he didn't feel like it. He wanted luke to face his father, which could turn him to the dark side.

Originally posted by kamikz
There is a book where the Emperor, after Vader disagrees with him, takes a grasp around his neck and prevents him from breathing, taking him to his knees. Palpatine would take this easy.
wat book? Shadows of the Empire?