Originally posted by *lizziekk*
yeah i do. the link you posted earlier explained and all i'm saying is that Gwen stefani did not destroy the damn culture 😬if the people who follow her aren't harajuku girls then shes not exactly destroying their culture is she?
Originally posted by _Sanctuary_
But the point is, that she is. She is making it mainstream when it's not even the culture.
She is because people will think that they are actual harajuku girls.
well you don't seem to think so.....so why would anyone else?
Originally posted by *lizziekk*
no she's not. all thats happened is that some girls follow her around. I don't see any culture being ruined by that.well you don't seem to think so.....so why would anyone else?
People might think they are real harajuku girls if they don't know much about Japan.
Originally posted by _Sanctuary_
Some girls follow her around? It has been months. They are with her everywhere, she doesn't allow them to speak or do anything. She dresses them up all the same, which ruins the idea of a harajuku girl's indivuduality.People might think they are real harajuku girls if they don't know much about Japan.
if they don't know much about japan the chances are is that they probably wont know/care about harajuku girls.
Originally posted by *lizziekk*
correction for you: She PAYS them to go with her everywhere, she PAYS them not to speak and she PAYS them to dress the same. you said they weren't harajuku girls so why does it matter?if they don't know much about japan the chances are is that they probably wont know/care about harajuku girls.
"Gwen Stefani is "amusing and distasteful" say Harajuku Girls Pop culture
hara0505.jpg When Rika Ookubo, a 19-year-old college student from Zushi, Japan, steps outside her house, she’s clad in what she calls “a combination of bohemian and urban style.” “This way,” she explains. “People are going to turn around and look at me and wonder who I am.”
Ookubo shops in the Harajuku district of Japan for her clothes, because it offers clothing unlikely to be found in mainstream department stores. When asked about the “Harajuku style” as it has become known in the United States, Ookubo shakes her head in bewilderment.
“Americans think it’s this crazy, weird thing that all Japanese people are doing,” she says. “There’s so much misrepresentation out there.” This misrepresentation is fostered in part by misguided media images. The latest example of this is singer Gwen Stefani’s solo album “Love. Angel. Music. Baby.,” one that purports to pay homage to Harajuku girls. “Hollaback Girl” is currently No. 1 in the Billboard singles chart.
This success not only furthers Stefani’s superstar status, but presumes to introduce Americans to Japanese youth culture – or at least a grossly misinformed version of the same. Ookubo says she finds Stefani’s antics amusing and distasteful."
Originally posted by _Sanctuary_
It matters because people think they are. It doesn't set a good image for people and it's offensive to Japanese people.
(talking about this after hearing what they think about it)
Its only offensive for the people that think following all the rules of the culture is important. I don't think it is because i dont follow that culture and i dont follow all of the rules for my culture either.
Originally posted by *lizziekk*
well then let people think what they want to think. its not about image though. Its about what you choose to do and Gwen chose to have people follow her around. big deal.Its only offensive for the people that think following all the rules of the culture is important. I don't think it is because i dont follow that culture and i dont follow all of the rules for my culture either.
Originally posted by _Sanctuary_
Aka. "It doesn't matter to me, because she is insulting another person's culture and not my own."
where the hell did i say i don't care about that culture because i'm not part of it?
Originally posted by *lizziekk*
nope. I didnt say that i dont care about the culture. i do... but i dont have to follow their rules because i'm not part of it and i don't keep to all the rules of my culture either. I mentioned that it was only offensive to the people who follow ALL of the cultures rules and think its important. 🙄where the hell did i say i don't care about that culture because i'm not part of it?
"This is the reason why it is disappointing to see these women presented as the quintessential Japanese female stereotype; meek, submissive and malleable."
Originally posted by _Sanctuary_
It's not a culture with rules. It is about expressing their indivudality.
Gwen Stefani is just trying to make money out of it.
(It sounded like you didn't care because of the subject matter.)
It's offensive to more than just the people who follow "ALL the rules"."This is the reason why it is disappointing to see these women presented as the quintessential Japanese female stereotype; meek, submissive and malleable."
yes that is someone elses opinion. just like this is mine.
Originally posted by *lizziekk*
so basically a culture rule is to express individuality. 😐
so? lots of celebrities try to make money.
(no it didn't you were trying to make it look like i didnt care about the culture
🙄 )
ok then its only offensive to those who care about following all of the rules of the culture and ex-fans of gwen stefani.yes that is someone elses opinion. just like this is mine.
Not really. It's offensive to a lot of people.