JLA/ Avengers Krona v The Phoenix of the White Crown

About Phoenix (Taken from the handbook)

Born of the void between states of being, the Phoenix Force is a child of the universe. In the dying moments of the previous universe, dirived from the psyches of all living beings. In it's natural state, this life-cycle is enough to sustain the Force. However, in order to manifest itself on the physical plane, the Force must tap into the near limitless source of energy provided by life-force reserved for future generations, thus denying them existance.

So the Phoenix force is limited to the life force of 1 Universe.

About Krona in JLA/ Avengers

Krona was also the main villain in the DC/Marvel JLA/Avengers mini-series. In it, apparently still an entropy-being, he destroyed several Universes while trying to discover the secret of universal creation. Arriving in the Marvel Universe, Krona agrees to a cosmic game with En Dwi Gast, the Grandmaster. Two teams, one from each universe would seek out items of power, including the Ultimate Nullifier, the Infinity Gems and Kyle Raynar's Power Battery. When Gast's heroes, the JLA won, Krona attacked the Grandmaster, despite the best efforts of the JLA and the Avengers to stop him. He finally obtained his secret from the cosmic entity Galactus. Krona then continued his onslaught to destroy both the Marvel and DC universes in order to create a new one, so that he could watch creation first-hand, but the heroes managed to stop him, imprisoning him into a "cosmic egg" from which a universe will be born in about a trillion years. Since this story was part of a special publication by two separate comic book companies, it would not usually be considered canon, but this is a rare case in which it has become canon: the cosmic egg later reappeared in the pages of JLA.

Krona destroys all the "lifeforce in Universes" rather easily absorbing that energy. As JLA avengers is canon Krona can be considered a Phoenix eater. He certainly punked Galactus far more easily than any Phoenix avatar. Now...........................

The power of destruction and "many universes" v the "lifeforce of unborn generations".

🙂

Keep the faith🙂

Stay Whirly 🤘

Krona uses a lot of people as pawns, right?
He's just calls in the Cosmic Bunny first. Fight over. 😄

Originally posted by roughrider
Krona uses a lot of people as pawns, right?
He's just calls in the Cosmic Bunny first. Fight over. 😄

Agreed the Bunny owns all 🙂

the bunny would own phoenix then krona............

Originally posted by thesilverspider
the bunny would own phoenix then krona............

he would indeed 🙂

Then reed lights a cigar from Phoenix's remains......

Originally posted by thesilverspider
Then reed lights a cigar from Phoenix's remains......

I see this happening

if the goblin force has proven capable of devouring the pf of a universe, krona, who is enormously powerful, should likely be able to do something similar. though i suspect ONE person may not agree . . . 😖hifty:

Originally posted by leonidas
if the goblin force has proven capable of devouring the pf of a universe, krona, who is enormously powerful, should likely be able to do something similar. though i suspect ONE person may not agree . . . 😖hifty:

Yes where is that one disagreeable individual. 🙂

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Yes where is that one disagreeable individual. 🙂

I'm here you fools..................... 🙄

................. 😈

Originally posted by thesilverspider
I'm here you fools..................... 🙄

................. 😈

not you 😖hifty: the other on 😂

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
About Phoenix (Taken from the handbook)

Born of the void between states of being, the Phoenix Force is a child of the universe. In the dying moments of the previous universe, dirived from the psyches of all living beings. In it's natural state, this life-cycle is enough to sustain the Force. However, in order to manifest itself on the physical plane, the Force must tap into the near limitless source of energy provided by life-force reserved for future generations, thus denying them existance.

So the Phoenix force is limited to the life force of 1 Universe.

About Krona in JLA/ Avengers

Krona was also the main villain in the DC/Marvel JLA/Avengers mini-series. In it, apparently still an entropy-being, he destroyed several Universes while trying to discover the secret of universal creation. Arriving in the Marvel Universe, Krona agrees to a cosmic game with En Dwi Gast, the Grandmaster. Two teams, one from each universe would seek out items of power, including the Ultimate Nullifier, the Infinity Gems and Kyle Raynar's Power Battery. When Gast's heroes, the JLA won, Krona attacked the Grandmaster, despite the best efforts of the JLA and the Avengers to stop him. He finally obtained his secret from the cosmic entity Galactus. Krona then continued his onslaught to destroy both the Marvel and DC universes in order to create a new one, so that he could watch creation first-hand, but the heroes managed to stop him, imprisoning him into a "cosmic egg" from which a universe will be born in about a trillion years. Since this story was part of a special publication by two separate comic book companies, it would not usually be considered canon, but this is a rare case in which it has become canon: the cosmic egg later reappeared in the pages of JLA.

Krona destroys all the "lifeforce in Universes" rather easily absorbing that energy. As JLA avengers is canon Krona can be considered a Phoenix eater. He certainly punked Galactus far more easily than any Phoenix avatar. Now...........................

The power of destruction and "many universes" v the "lifeforce of unborn generations".

🙂

Keep the faith🙂

Stay Whirly 🤘

Ignore the bio above peeps. Whirly has edited the original contents to suit his anti phoenix stance. Its not how its presented in the handbook at all and his statements are intentionally false. Dont be fooled. 😉

Phoenix wins 🙂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Ignore the bio above peeps. Whirly has edited the original contents to suit his anti phoenix stance. Its not how its presented in the handbook at all and his statements are intentionally false. Dont be fooled. 😉

Phoenix wins 🙂

I have not put everything in but nothing is false, these are all statements from the handbook.

🙂

Krona destroys Universes 🙂

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
I have not put everything in but nothing is false, these are all statements from the handbook.

🙂

Krona destroys Universes 🙂

so does phoenix............... 😖hifty:

to throw in a bonus she also creates them aswell.......... 😄

Originally posted by thesilverspider
so does phoenix............... 😖hifty:

to throw in a bonus she also creates them aswell.......... 😄

Nope the Phoenix cycle is it creates and destroys one universe, each universe has a Phoenix Force according to the handbook. It even mentions the Phoenix Force of the previous Universe. So....... and Krona takes the energy (Phoenixes lifeforce) with him as he goes. He is a phoenix eater. But then Universal Entropy is what will end universes in reality.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
I have not put everything in but nothing is false, these are all statements from the handbook.

🙂

Krona destroys Universes 🙂

Youve mixed up the sentences and edited the contents in a way which as aforementioned suits your stance. Post the original bio Whirly. 🙂

Krona may destroy universes but that isnt a problem to a being that isnt merely universal. 🙂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Youve mixed up the sentences and edited the contents in a way which as aforementioned suits your stance. Post the original bio Whirly. 🙂

Krona may destroy universes but that isnt a problem to a being that isnt merely universal. 🙂

I have edited it. But mixed up nothing. Are any of the statements not from the handbook? No, So have I lied? No.

You don't like it because I have posted salient points.

🙂 Krona destroys the Phoenix Force, thats what he does, eats Universes, JLA/Avengers is cannon. He eats them for breakfast.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Nope the Phoenix cycle is it creates and destroys one universe, each universe has a Phoenix Force according to the handbook. It even mentions the Phoenix Force of the previous Universe. So....... and Krona takes the energy (Phoenixes lifeforce) with him as he goes. He is a phoenix eater. But then Universal Entropy is what will end universes in reality.

Theres one Phoenix Consciousness which manifests into reality as the Big Bangs which create each reality. The Phoenix from the previous universe is the same Phoenix we all know and love. Notice it says reborn in the Big Bang. Not created. 🙂

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
I have edited it. But mixed up nothing. Are any of the statements not from the handbook? No, So have I lied? No.

You don't like it because I have posted salient points.

🙂 Krona destroys the Phoenix Force, thats what he does, eats Universes, JLA/Avengers is cannon. He eats them for breakfast.

Nope. You have sentences from the history section mixed up with the powers section my friend. Please dont make me post the bio to show you up as a liar. 🙁

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Theres one Phoenix Consciousness which manifests into reality as the Big Bangs which create each reality. The Phoenix from the previous universe is the same Phoenix we all know and love. Notice it says reborn in the Big Bang. Not created. 🙂

It may well be the same "Universal" Phoenix Force Krona would eat 🙂