Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Don't get carried away not every single character is faster. Grey foz been in all over the place too where no one sees him but you here the damage he leaves behind.... They said Haku can kill kakashi and looked what happened to his ass. Demon 2 could rape Kakashi. Itachi raped kakashi , (well he is a beast but still) Orochimaru scared the shit out of kakashi and kakashi gets hurst using the eye he stole from his friend.
It was never said that Haku could kill Kakashi (Zabuza said no one had ever survived the Demon Ice mirrors), of course Kyuubi could kill Kakashi, Itachi has the Mangekyou, a jutsu that can only be defeated by someone of Uchia blood and he not only survived the attack but managed to develop a jutsu based it (and the only reason Kakashi got caught in the move was because he saved that dump genjutsu chick) on it and Kakashi wasn't scared of Orochimaru he just said he was stupid to think he could beat him in his current state.
Kakashi didn't steal his friends eye, Obito gave it to him and post time skip Kakashi demonstrated that he can use the sharingan eye for at least a day with out running out of energy, but he can't use his sharingans second form for vary long with out exusting his chakra.
The stongest person in the series alive is Jiraiya, Itachi said that even if he fought him with Kisame they could still lose. It was said that in his prime the 3rd was the strongest of all the Hokage but the 4th most have been close. Kakashi's fathr the White Fang was also on the same level of power as the Legendary 3 before his suicide.
Also Kakashi is better then every single genin in Naruto in every single way (and not by a small amount), it was made clear by Naruto and Sakura. They couldn't even land a hand on him... and that was post time skip Naruto and Sakura! They guy has gone through the intire manga and the only time he was hit... he let it happened so he could a) get blood for a jutsu or b) get some distance between him and his enemy
And yes every single ninja you have seen is faster then Grey Fox.
And the fact that Kakashi "only has one orignal jutsu" means nothing. He is one of the few ninjas who we know who have created their own jutsu (Kakashi, the 3rd, the 4th and Garaa and some may consider Naruto... but not really and thats it) and he made it when he was 12!
Not negi!!!
And Kakashi got that itachi eye now in the future. Naruto and sakuar did touch him when they grew up.(read the mangas when they grow up) yeah kakshi could rape ninja guy but not neji and them at their current state) Ninja dodges bullets from a mmmachine gun and also no one could see him when he goes all fast. He blocks machine gun bullets with his katana too and has a blaster on his hand plus the suit that gives him power...well kakashi now and future could win but not the old version....kakashi has his own form of tachis eye m something...fish man fights gai and gai opens up the gates in his hands only and does some nice combo. Demon 3 is born which kakashi and the others are scared of. Hmm...
Kakshi said why didn't itach kill him when he was in the eye thing. Itachi LET him live. And he didn;'t save the girl she was standing their with the beareded guy and he told them to close their eyes. He uses sharingan but he didn't know what the eye true power was so he got caught in itachi realm.
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Not negi!!!And Kakashi got that itachi eye now in the future. Naruto and sakuar did touch him when they grew up.(read the mangas when they grow up) yeah kakshi could rape ninja guy but not neji and them at their current state) Ninja dodges bullets from a mmmachine gun and also no one could see him when he goes all fast. He blocks machine gun bullets with his katana too and has a blaster on his hand plus the suit that gives him power...well kakashi now and future could win but not the old version....kakashi has his own form of tachis eye m something...fish man fights gai and gai opens up the gates in his hands only and does some nice combo. Demon 3 is born which kakashi and the others are scared of. Hmm...
Kakshi said why didn't itach kill him when he was in the eye thing. Itachi LET him live. And he didn;'t save the girl she was standing their with the beareded guy and he told them to close their eyes. He uses sharingan but he didn't know what the eye true power was so he got caught in itachi realm.
Sakura and Naruto couldn't touch him they had to trick him by threatening to spoil the end of the "Make out paradise" so he had to cover his ears so he couldn't hear Naruto and close his eyes so that he couldn't read his lips. Don't understand half the stuff you said about Neji but Kakashi would kick his ass... easily, heck he'd to the same to Neji's uncle. Kakashi can also open the gates, he did so while he was climbing the moutain with on arm. Even run of the mill jounin are leagues stronger then Naruto and his team when the went after the four sound to save Sasuke, Kakashi could have do it himself if he wasn't on an S rank mission. Who is Demon 3? We have only seen Kyuubi and Gaara's demon this far in the manga.
Kakashi had to save the genjutsi specialist from Itachi's exploding Mizu-kage, thats way he was forced into a sharingan battle with Itachi, it would have taking down anyone in the series. Before he saved the chick he hadn't even been hit. The move should have killed Kakashi but it didnt.
Any way Garaa's sand shield is faster then the speed of sound (as shown when he fought that soundnin), genin exam Sasuke or weightless Lee was much faster then the shield, post genin exam Sasuke was even faster, curse seal level 2 was at least 10 times faster (heaven seal was stronger then the rest so maybe even faster) and Kakashi is above them all.
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Kyuubi 3 naruto in demon mode with 3 tails. Wait i meant neji can not beat cyber ninja. Have you read the manga in the futrure like me ? (so we are on the same page) Whats the point of Gai and everyone else if the damn sharingan steals it..piece of shit...well Gai already beat kakashi up.
Gai claims he has 50 wins against Kakashi and 49 loses... we don't know if that is accurate.
Neji would wreak Grey Fox, pre Genin exam Sasuke before he fought Lee would beat Grey Fox.
I have read every issue so far in the Naruto manga and have been reading since it was first being scan lated (well... 12 issues had been scanlated already but its close)
There are only 3 known people alive with the sharingan... so it isn't a big deal
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
no. You no nothing about grey fox then. No neji or people lik ethat are beating him in their current state. Only people like kakshi and stuff can. Maybe future neji and when gara becoems an Hokage but no not now.
Grey Fox is maybe on Spider-man speed and strength level... thats nothing man. He wont even see these guys moves, the only thing he'll ever hit his a wooden log (if he is lucky) Neji would blow threw the guy. Lee had no chance against Neji with his weights on and even with them on Rock Lee was uprooting trees with one hand and speed blitzing Sasuke. Grey Fox could beat Ino or Sakura (since they suck) but other then that he doesn't stand much of a chance against any of them. Gai thinks that pre time skip Kakashi has the speed to cut through a lighting bolt with a move that needs hand seals and charging time... thats above lightspeed.
Can neji dodge machine gone fire. When ninja moves no one sees him. His suit makes him durabily and he got the big as beam gun on one hand. The kitana thats fast enought to defelect a room of people shooting ast him and solid snake bullets at close range. he lifted a metal gear rex leg for awhile bfore getting killed he also got slammed by that giuant metal gear in a wall and still got back up flipping around.. No neji levels at current state can not beat him..the 64 hit thing can not even get through the mans armor. Also I agree on kakashi wins part though. watch the vide again.
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Can neji dodge machine gone fire. When ninja moves no one sees him. His suit makes him durabily and he got the big as beam gun on one hand. The kitana thats fast enought to defelect a room of people shooting ast him and solid snake bullets at close range. he lifted a metal gear rex leg for awhile bfore getting killed he also got slammed by that giuant metal gear in a wall and still got back up flipping around.. No neji levels at current state can not beat him..the 64 hit thing can not even get through the mans armor. Also I agree on kakashi wins part though. watch the vide again.
Yes he can, FYI here is some folklore about the byakugan
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?p=518414#post518414
Neji is actually one of the strongest ninjas with gentlefist you can't train your inner organs, meaning one hit can kill you....anyone. BTW Neji can flow the chakra through the armor hence, why clothing doesn't stop a gentlefist attack and why people can send chakra through metal to cling to their feets or to walls.
BTW can anyone guess who I am on the board?
The strongest ninja alive is Akatsuki leader who we will simply refer to him as the dude.
And the whole Jiraya, Orochimaru, Itachi thing sounds like a rock, paper, scissors thing to me.
Oro; claims Itachi is stronger than him.
Itachi; claims Jiraya is stronger than him.
Saratobi the 3rd; claims Oro was the strongest out of the Sanins.
Jiraya is the only one that keeps to himself and donst make dumb comments like those.
(some might argue that Itachi was referring to Naruto and the demon sealed up inside him and not Jiraya. Mostly because; when he made his comments about both Jiraya since Itachi or Kasime never referd to Jiraya by his name.)
Originally posted by id369
The strongest ninja alive is Akatsuki leader who we will simply refer to him as the dude.And the whole Jiraya, Orochimaru, Itachi thing sounds like a rock, paper, scissors thing to me.
Oro; claims Itachi is stronger than him.
Itachi; claims Jiraya is stronger than him.
Saratobi the 3rd; claims Oro was the strongest out of the Sanins.
Jiraya is the only one that keeps to himself and donst make dumb comments like those.(some might argue that Itachi was referring to Naruto and the demon sealed up inside him and not Jiraya. Mostly because; when he made his comments about both Jiraya since Itachi or Kasime never referd to Jiraya by his name.)
Nope the only reason the roach(as i call him) said that itachi will win is because he got the eye..thats why he wants sasukes eye..
Oro confronted Tsunade and Jiraya with his messed up arm. Saratobi is claimed to be the strongest leaf ninja to ever live (this is dabatable as well runners up or strong contestants are Youndaime and Sakumo if you ask me.)
Saratobi Prime would be able to take down Orochimaru, Jiraya or Tsuanade. And yes Itachi would fall victam to Saratobi as well. He isn鈥檛 called the Shinobi God for nothing.
And If he Saratobi said he was the strongest out of the 3, then its law by his words. (don鈥檛 look at me I didn鈥檛 write the manga.)