who is better, vince carter or dwayne wade?

Originally posted by tanjot
danzeke, i am 100% sure that it was a 3 pointer, vince took 2 3s b4 he made that one at the buzzer, he shot the first 1 with aboout 8 seconds left which is more than enough time to drive to the basket and attempt to draw the foul. i was watching the game, and that highlight has been shown many times before. next time u c it, u can assure urself because i already know that i am right. one of the announcers said it when they were showing the replay, "vince carter hits the 3 pointer at the buzzer to force the game into overtime." by the way, who saw vince play his old team? 42 points, 10 boards, 4 assists, and the game winning 3 pointer with 0.1 seconds left. 24 points in the fourth quarter.

I was watching the game too. It was a 2 pointer. Look, heres proof.

http://www.nba.com/games/20050428/MIANJN/recap.html

"Five straight points by O'Neal gave the Heat a 99-97 lead late in the first overtime. After going more than three minutes without a basket, the Nets tied it as a baseline jumper by Vince Carter rattled out, off the backboard and back in at the buzzer."

Originally posted by tanjot
by the way, who saw vince play his old team? 42 points, 10 boards, 4 assists, and the game winning 3 pointer with 0.1 seconds left. 24 points in the fourth quarter.

Just for the sake of compairing tonights performances:
MPG:
VC: 45:16
Wade: 27:51 (keep in mind that Wade played nearly 20 minutes less)

PPG:
VC: 42
Wade: 31

Shooting:
VC: 18 for 35
Wade: 13 for 17 (Took VC nearly 20 more minutes and more than twice as many shots to achieve 11 more points)

Rebounds:
VC: 10
Wade: 5

Assists:
VC: 3
Wade: 7

Stls:
VC: 2
Wade: 6

TOs:
VC: 3
Wade: 2

Blocks
Both had 0

Additional notes:
-Vince had Kidd dishing out assists like crazy (15 assists)
-Both Nets and Miami won against fairly equal shitty teams. VC played great at the end of the game for the win. However, Wade played great early on and didn't even have to play by the end. I'd say Wade had the better overall night.

ok, so tell me this.... is it hard to score a lot of points against the miami heat???? it is isnt it? gary payton, shaq, dwayne wade... all good defensive players.. andf oh yeah u can add in alonzo mourning. so... vince scored 51 points, and u know how every1 says that wade drives to the basket more. vince made 23/24 free throws that game. u cant hold anything against vicne for that performance though, now can u? and danzeke, plz get this through ur thick skull, im saying it the way i am because u r not ready 2 admit

Originally posted by tanjot
danzeke, plz get this through ur thick skull, im saying it the way i am because u r not ready 2 admit

He already posted a link with the recap on, how much more proof do you require?
Look its ok that you think Vince is a better player, but you dont seem to be changing anyone elses mind with your arguments.

ok... so tell me this... would it b easy 2 get BETTER stats than those he had in the raptors game, against the heat? no right? he had 51 points against the heat, who have gary payton, shaq, and dwayne wade. u can say what u want about how wade attacks the rim more, but vince attempted 24 free throws that game and made 23 of them. plus, danzeke, dont put in stats.. because they both play different positions, which OBVIOUSLY differs their stats. dwayne wade plays pg/sg, and vince play sg/sf, and i dont know of anything shooting guard or shooting forward that has any chance to average close to 10 assists a season. a point guard though, thats their job and wade has played that position many many times.. thats his job.. vince's job is to score. wade's job is a whole lot different even though he does do a lot of scoring.

You cant say look at Carters stats in the Heat/Raptors games and then say that DanZeke cant use stats to prove his point, what kind of debate is that?

Originally posted by tanjot
ok, so tell me this.... is it hard to score a lot of points against the miami heat???? it is isnt it? gary payton, shaq, dwayne wade... all good defensive players.. andf oh yeah u can add in alonzo mourning. so... vince scored 51 points, and u know how every1 says that wade drives to the basket more. vince made 23/24 free throws that game. u cant hold anything against vicne for that performance though, now can u? and danzeke, plz get this through ur thick skull, im saying it the way i am because u r not ready 2 admit

I'm sorry buddy, but your the one who is afraid to admit your wrong.

Originally posted by tanjot
ok, so tell me this.... is it hard to score a lot of points against the miami heat???? it is isnt it? gary payton, shaq, dwayne wade... all good defensive players.. andf oh yeah u can add in alonzo mourning. so... vince scored 51 points, and u know how every1 says that wade drives to the basket more. vince made 23/24 free throws that game. u cant hold anything against vicne for that performance though, now can u? and danzeke, plz get this through ur thick skull, im saying it the way i am because u r not ready 2 admit

Nobody is denying that VC is a really really good player. Besides, one game still doesn't prove anything. Most people (not all) would choose Wade to lead their team over VC.

wats with these comparing threads lately? they both include vince carter.

tanjot is just a big fan I guess. Next we're going to see "Who is better, Vince Carter or Michael Jordan." If I see that then their is no limit and I will post "Vince Carter vs Eric Montross".

lol @ Eric Montross, classic.

but it is hard to score 51 points against the heat....

The Heat are not really that good defensively. Their perimeter D is weak, Wade is good defensively thats all and Jason Williams plays revolving door defense. If Walker plays SF then they are even worse on the perimeter, Posey is a better option. Mourning is a way better defensive player than Snaq, he at least goes after shots. Snaq only goes after shots that come directly at him where Mourning goes after anything inside the 3pt line. Snaq at his size should lead the league in blocks every year but he is lazy on D, compare his effort on D to Ben Wallace for example. Payton is not the glove anymore, more like the mitten.
That being said im not trying to diminish Carter's 51pt game, im just saying that the Heat are not an elite defensive team and they dont have a player capable of slowing Vince down like the Spurs or Pistons.

Originally posted by tanjot
but it is hard to score 51 points against the heat....

Yes it is. Its hard to score 51 any game. Anybody who can do that against any team obviously has talent. Nobody is denying that.

danzeke what u originally posted, which was a quote said that vince made a baseline jumper.... which doesnt say that it was a 2 point or 3 point baseline jumper, y can u not accept that ur wrong??? i am TOTALLY TOTALLY TOTALLY TOTALLY 100% SURE that it was a 3 pointer. i was watching the game, actually, u know what else, i recorded the game. if ur going to prove something dont tell me... look at highlights on televison, and then u can clearly c what the truth. the reason im telling u this, is because im not giving u my opinion, im giving u facts because i know that it was a 3.

u know what danzeke, i dont care whether ur willing to admit that ur wrong, but either way it was vince that hit the jumper to tie the game, no matter how many times it bounced around the rim, it went it.

Just do the math man, if the Heat are up 99-97 and Carter hits a three at the buzzer its game over. He tied the game so it has to be a 2.

Originally posted by tanjot
danzeke what u originally posted, which was a quote said that vince made a baseline jumper.... which doesnt say that it was a 2 point or 3 point baseline jumper, y can u not accept that ur wrong??? i am TOTALLY TOTALLY TOTALLY TOTALLY 100% SURE that it was a 3 pointer. i was watching the game, actually, u know what else, i recorded the game. if ur going to prove something dont tell me... look at highlights on televison, and then u can clearly c what the truth. the reason im telling u this, is because im not giving u my opinion, im giving u facts because i know that it was a 3.

Are you retarded? Click on the damn link I posted. Then either read the article which says clearley that the score was 99-97,(and since you seem to have trouble with math, thats a 2 point lead) and then he tied it to send it to the first OT. So yeah, your right, he hit a 3 pointer to tie the game when they were down by two. 😐

Or, if for some reason you don't believe that, then click on the link to the highlights, because that is visual evidence that it was a 2. You do have eyes, right?

It was a two. The End. I win.

was deffo a two

I must say myself that it appears from the recap that it was a two.