Oh, for ****'s sake. Superman, people? Krypton's last son is definetly a powerhouse, but have you people been watching DBZ??? If Goku's kid sneezes, earth is destroyed. I'd take just about any of the DBZ fighters over Superman. Everyone's favorite solar-powered superhero gets beat by the super-sajin faster I spank a monkey
First of all Superman is nothing, a pathetic wienie given great powers. He flies around thinking he's all that and wasting perfect powers like he has. Have you ever seen Superwimp use his powers for his own benefits (fun and games) Mmmm... never. All that unbelievable powers wasted by this pathetic FOOL who uses them for only the benefit of mankind not his own, WHAT THE HELL!?! IS THAT ALL ABOUT!?! Superman’s villains are also dumbasses except for Doomsday and Lobo. Supie's got all that power and he uses it to protect one stupid city, hell with his powers he could be a comic super, but just stay the hell away for red suns and there rays. Goku, however, has great powers and uses them for his benefits and also protecting the world. The guy actually has fun from time to time and is also funny sometimes unlike Supermoron who isn't any fun at all he's just a Big Popoo Head.
-Super has superspeed. Yeah so, shit Goku has super speed as well.
-Superman has superheat vision. So who the hell gives a damn when the other guy's able to blast energy blast and increase it at an unbelievable level. Blowing everything out of sight.
-Super has superstrenght which means shit to Goku cause he's got that as well.
-Goku's got attitude and style with a variety of power that matches supes and Goku's also got those magical beans that will heal any of his wounds up right and also make him FART a whole lot.
-Superman might have all that superpower, but in the end it won't help him against Goku who will go Super Saiyan on Supes' Sorry Ass. Goku is not a caring superhero all the time like Supie and when he powers up to maximum if there even is a maximum level to his power, he'll mop the floors with Superman and then mop up Superman's blood from the ground with Supes' ugly face. Poor Superman will get his ass kick around all over Khazan Arena. However, Vegeta would be a better match with Supie since he's more ruthless then Goku.
- Go Goku kill that Pathetic, Sorry Ass, Filthy, Wienie of a superhero. P.S. I hate Superman. What a looser!!! D.C sucks. Marvel cool. Spidey rules. GO DA HELL SUPERFOOL!!!
Lets compare:
Arch nemeses:
Lex Luther: genius business man
Frezza: Not so bright, and ambiguously gay, but extremely powerful
Metalo: made out of a cheep adamantium knock off, and is rampantly destructive
Androids 16,17,18,19,20: beat everyone like a drum, and some even look cool
Goku: 1 Superman: 0
Powers
Superman: too long to list
Goku: too long to list
Goku:1 Superman:0
Girl friends
ChiChi: his wife is a B-I-T-C-H! and is named after breasts
Lois Lane: she is stylish and smart
Goku:1 Superman:1
so it comes down to a tie. But for my money the only way Superman can win is if he deals a killing blow while Goku is providing a long expository speech, and or providing comic relief. Superman's only other option is to get Goku to prepare an attack, for five min. DBZ time, in outher words 3 or 4 hours regular time. During which Superman wont waste 5 episodes talking instead of killing like Frezza did
Originally posted by supersayin4goku
Lets compare:Arch nemeses:
Lex Luther: genius business man
Frezza: Not so bright, and ambiguously gay, but extremely powerful
Metalo: made out of a cheep adamantium knock off, and is rampantly destructive
Androids 16,17,18,19,20: beat everyone like a drum, and some even look cool
Goku: 1 Superman: 0
Powers
Superman: too long to list
Goku: too long to list
Goku:1 Superman:0
Girl friends
ChiChi: his wife is a B-I-T-C-H! and is named after breasts
Lois Lane: she is stylish and smart
Goku:1 Superman:1
so it comes down to a tie. But for my money the only way Superman can win is if he deals a killing blow while Goku is providing a long expository speech, and or providing comic relief. Superman's only other option is to get Goku to prepare an attack, for five min. DBZ time, in outher words 3 or 4 hours regular time. During which Superman wont waste 5 episodes talking instead of killing like Frezza did
ORRRRRR pic the comic book supes..the real one
Originally posted by dvampire
How is Goku going to hurt Superman when he could barly push a moutain apart inssj2 or ssj4 when he struggled with pushing a building in place and having trouble lifting people on a small rock? Superman whould destroy Goku in a sec.Here's ssj2 Goku struggling to push a moutain apart, something Superman was doing ten years ago.
http://myfavoritegames.com/dragonball-z/Media/Video_Clips/VideoClips.htm
Here's Superman's feats.
Supes is using his Heat Vision to get the foe off of him.
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Supes shoots a beam of low-intensity Heat Vision at the Moon. People in the watch tower was blinded except for Plastic Man cause sense he had shades on. The Moon is very far from Earth, this shows the range Supes Heat Vision has.
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In this pic it shows that Supes Heat Vision stated by them, "his vision is off the charts by any standard scientific measures". They can measure how hot a star is, but they cannot measure the temp of Supermans Heat Vision.
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In this pic his power is waning under a red sun, but he still summoned enough Heat Vision to successfully power Jor-ELs planet-moving ion engines. The in this case had a mass 16 times that of Earth's.
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In this pic, Superman is flying by the sun to stop the Cannabal planet from destroying the sun. This also prove that Supes is able to blow up a planet aswell. He also heated up a plaent with his Heat Vision before too.
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Superman calculating the guys melting point. Wich also shows how much he holds back with his Heat Vision, to keep from killing his foes.
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Supes just spraying this guy with Heat Vision. If he wanted to, he could kill Goku easily with Heat Vision, without even letting him even breath.
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Superman can also blind his opponent or just lobotimize his foe with Heat Vision. If he was fighting to kill without holding back there's no telling what he'll do.
Here's proof that Supes is light speed, and is far faster than any DBZ/GT character.
Superman catching bullets with little effort. This is something the DBZ/Gt characters can do also though.
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Here's Superman reading at high speeds (something Goku or any of the DBZ/GT characters ever done).
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Superman fighting at high speeds.
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Here's Superman vibrating (phasing) his body so fast that hes going right through Doomsday Lightning/Fire Breath. This is proof that hes far faster than any DBZ/GT character.
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Here's Superman vibrating his body invisible now, something they also can't do either.
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Here's Superman calculating how fast to go on Earths Surface in populated areas. He also plug Lois them ears with cotton while he flew through.
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Lois asks Superman for Champagne from another contry, and by the time she finishes her short sentence, Supes already got it, and has been waiting for a while.
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Superman traveling at high speeds in space.
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Superman heres GL (Kyle) about a million miles away from Earth in bed, and he gets there in seconds.
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Here's Superman taking Darksied to the sun in seconds. It takes light 8 minutes to get from Earth to the Sun.
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Superman is far stronger too, as is always holding back. Superman hits Lobo from Earth into orbit, Lobo stats that if he doesn't stop himself that he'll spend the next century obitting around the planet.
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Superman and G. Zod blows are so devastating that they are creating earthquakes and the planet is falling apart. And he was still holding back while fighting under a red sun.
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Here's Supes when hes done pulling his punches.
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Here's Superman holding a black hole in the palm of his hand for a while.
Which makes him far stronger than than Goku.http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9199/supermanblackhole0015ak.jpg
Here's Superman taking several particle beams.
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Superman taking a blast equal to a million nuclear blasts.
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Superman surviving the destruction of a sun eater at ground zero. The sun eater is an enormously energetic cloud that literally eats both the energy and mass of whole stars. The sun eater was considerably larger than a star, had been in existence for millenia and had consumed the energy of many stars by travelling from galaxy to galaxy. Which proves that he's far more durable than any DBZ/GT character.
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Here's Superman actually escaping a double black hole (which beats every feat ssj3/4 Goku or any DBZ/GT character has ever done), this proves his strength, speed, and durability.
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Superman has ssj3/4 Goku in strength, speed, durability, and stamina. Goku loses.
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Lets compare:
Arch nemeses:
Lex Luther: genius business man
Frezza: Not so bright, and ambiguously gay, but extremely powerful
Metalo: made out of a cheep adamantium knock off, and is rampantly destructive
Androids 16,17,18,19,20: beat everyone like a drum, and some even look cool
Goku: 1 Superman: 0
Powers
Superman: too long to list
Goku: too long to list
Goku:1 Superman:0
Girl friends
ChiChi: his wife is a B-I-T-C-H! and is named after breasts
Lois Lane: she is stylish and smart
Goku:1 Superman:1
so it comes down to a tie. But for my money the only way Superman can win is if he deals a killing blow while Goku is providing a long expository speech, and or providing comic relief. Superman's only other option is to get Goku to prepare an attack, for five min. DBZ time, in outher words 3 or 4 hours regular time. During which Superman wont waste 5 episodes talking instead of killing like Frezza did.
About all Superman can be grateful for is that this isn't one of the DB villains. One of those guys (or girls, or ambiguous *chough*frieza*chough*) would mock him, taunt him, mock him some more, taunt him some more, dodge his attacks, make him look like a feeble child (such as the redhead who is being eternally beaten at K-Mart), and when they got tired of that, they'd force-feed him Kryptonite Spamtm until he exploded. Game, set, match.
I'm about as big a DC fanboy as they come but I have a dark little secret... I _HATE_ Superman. The ultimate boyscout refuses to kill and will try to pacify Goku. Goku, depending on when we are talking, has infinite power. He regularly works out at several hundred times Earth's gravity and that Spirit Ball of his...
well...
I'll send out the invitations to Superman's second funeral.
Do stop multiple posting please. It just slows the system down.
BTW this is the anime section. If you wish to talk about comics or Superman, please go to the Comic Book Forums. Do try to keep to the topic of the thread. We seem to have drifted from Vegito and Naruto.
First off, I want to smack who ever, EVER thought doing this battle was a smart idea. All this will do is get all of the DBZ haters out on the board all pissed off when Goku wins(and he will) and when the DBZfans cheer and the inane fans start coming out of the woodwork to post at the board. *sigh*
But anyway...
I'm not going to do a power by power analysis, as we don't even know what type of incarnation of Superman OR Goku we're using (as it makes a whole heaping ****load of difference if we're dealing with PC Supes against say SSJ3 Goku).
Only one thing matters in a match like this. ONE THING.
Willpower.
Now, I'll say this. Both men are of incredible willpower, despite what era or power level you take them from. They're the type of guys who say, "I'm gonna do this and you aren't gonna stop me," well, guess what? You're not going to stop them, because they're so focused on their goal.
So, with that, who has the bigger will to prevail?
And I've got to say that it's Goku, with no disrespect with Superman.
I've seen stories where Superman has broken down and cried at the job, killed himself because he's lost someone he's loved, isolated himself because of someone he's loved, doubting if he can finish the job, so on and so forth. While in the end he usually suceeds, it's disconcerting to see that type of wavering spirit while on the job. And this is far too of a repeating occurence, especially nowadays.
But let's look at Goku... who never, EVER gives up. EVER.
Not once, NOT ONCE do I remember an instance where Goku has lost the will to win, or lost the belief that the battle could be won. It doesn't matter what you do, this guy will keep working to defeat you. I've seen him giving telepathic messages to people to help them defeat a foe, I've seen him plung into battle, I've seen him BACK OFF from fighting someone just because he realizes that he's not the best one for the job and will give the one who can advice and props, I've even seen him leave Heaven for crying out loud to save people he cares about! The only way I've ever seen people knock Goku out of the fight permanently is to beat the living shit outta him, break both his arms and legs, break his jaw, and then knock him unconscious. That way, there's no way in hell he can get back into physical battle, and he won't be able to talk to give advice, and being unconscious keeps him from doing it telepathically. And by simply NOT KILLING HIM, he won't do any of the above from Heaven.
That's the only way you'll stop him. And from what I've seen, Superman does not have what it takes.
The only guy who I consider to have MORE willpower than Goku is Doctor Doom and that's only because of the way defeated the Beyonder, which took a willpower that even surpasses Goku's, to be able to do.
One other thing, Miss Quinzell... GOKU's NOT STUPID! He's naive, NOT stupid. Yeah, you may say that if you only catch glimpses of the show or read synopsis's, but if you see how Goku interacts with other people, you see that he's simply the most naive person on the planet, which is still a step above Superman, who should be able to sneeze and send people like the Toyman and Prankster to jail, and he doesn't!
One last thing, having villains who get more and more powerful every time they appear is still better than having to contend with villains in 'suits', Kryptonite that seems to rain down on Earth every single day(so that EVEN WHEN all Kryptonite on Earth was turned into Iron, MORE repopulated the Earth), and let me remention people like Toyman, Prankster and Terraman who gave PC-Superman a hard time like Doomsday gives Post-C Supes a hard time!
That's all, farewell!
Oh good lord. I'm sorry, no time for comments. I have to get off the planet before these two destroy it.
*a few moments later*
Stupid travel agency. Oh well, since I seem doomed to remain here for this fight, I might as well comment.
Speed: This is relative to the condition. I believe that in a cross country race, Superman could probably win. However, in combat, Goku uses a form of super speed that is more like instant teleportation. One minute he is there, the next he is right behind you. Supes just doesn't have that kind of speed.
Strength: We have seen Superman strain to lift forty tons, he can lift it, but it is a bit of an effort. However, when we saw Goku training in otherworld, we saw the South Kai make him train with forty tons on his body. Now, when Goku went Super Sayain, the wieght seemed like less than nothing! So, it seems that with Goku at full power, he may be just a bit stronger than Superman.
Skill: Superman has been in a lot of fights, but all of his experiance revolves around the use of his powers. Superman does not use combat skills in battle the way that Goku does. Goku is a veteran fighter, and a power house. Superman is just a power house. I do think Supes is smarter than most people typically think of him, but that won't make up for his lack of combat skills.
Power: It has been stated that it takes a power rating of 300 to destroy a planet. Goku has a power rating of over 3,000! Goku has also withstood a direct blast from Vegeta at point blank range, and Vegeta destroyed the friggin moon out of boredom! Supes can take a lot, but Goku can continue to shoot planet smashing blast after planet smashing blast at Supes until he can't take it any more.
All in all, Goku has the strength, speed and raw power to take on Supes. And if, IF, mind you, Supes could beat Goku, then Vegeta is going to enter the ring and demand to battle "the only mortal warrior that has overcome Kakorot!" Trust me, if Goku doesn't beat Superman, Vegeta probably will out of jealousy.
