trion is cyttorak read it http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/cyttor.htm
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
trion is cyttorak read it http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/cyttor.htm
Says nothing about Cytorrak being behind Trion Jugg. Would u mind copying and pasting the section along with the issue reference heading this site gives for every paragraph. Thank u
cyttorak posses juggernaut here read(X-Men II#88 (BTS))- When certain charlatans had attempted to steal the Juggernaut’s power by using a false second gem of Cyttorak (see Uncanny X-Men#361), the Juggernaut attempted to reabsorb his power from this second gem. However, he somehow was possessed by Cyttorak in the process. A being named Ejulp, dispatched by Juggernaut's confederate Black Tom, teleported the X-Men to aid the Juggernaut. Juggernaut's power was so heightened that he began shearing through dimensional boundaries. In this dimension, when Professor X and Wolverine made physical contact with eacher other, Xavier merged into Logan’s body. Nightcrawler and Kitty Pryde returned to find a larger Juggernaut tearing through a dimensional wall.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Just downloading the issue so i'll check for any Cytorrak references.
Nope no mention of Cytorrak being the being that possessed Jugg resulting in Trion.
It says the creator of the fake gem was an enemy of the Trion and his cult tricked Jugg into believing the fake was a second Cytorrak gem. One which could double his power. Once he possesed Jugg he set about finding the Trion and destroying them and their dimension.
So sorry it wasnt Cytorrak.
Heres a site which supports me on this:
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=96&page=5
i'd say cyttorak IS more powerful than galactus, nothing to state otherwise... he held galactus captive in his dimension (the crimson cosmos) and galactus couldnt leave without the help of his machinery.
thats really the only reference we have between the 2.
also, cyttorak isnt "trion" juggernaut. juggernaut has the capability of doing that, should he learn to use his power. he just never has. other people wielding his power have shown to use it in a devastating manor just like that. d'spayre has done it, and so did the guy that stole his power.
Isnt cyttorak skyfather level? He would not stand a chance against galctus and neither would trion jugs. He would be destroyed in seconds Galctus FAR IS ABOVE cyttorak. Any being above cyttorak would definitely kill jugs no matter what enchantment he has because jugs {anykind} is only as powerful as cyttorak at full potential considerably below Galactus. Galctus wins 10/10
Originally posted by Eternity
Isnt cyttorak skyfather level? He would not stand a chance against galctus and neither would trion jugs. He would be destroyed in seconds Galctus FAR IS ABOVE cyttorak. Any being above cyttorak would definitely kill jugs no matter what enchantment he has because jugs {anykind} is only as powerful as cyttorak at full potential considerably below Galactus. Galctus wins 10/10
Preach!!! 😉
Originally posted by Eternity
Isnt cyttorak skyfather level? He would not stand a chance against galctus and neither would trion jugs. He would be destroyed in seconds Galctus FAR IS ABOVE cyttorak. Any being above cyttorak would definitely kill jugs no matter what enchantment he has because jugs {anykind} is only as powerful as cyttorak at full potential considerably below Galactus. Galctus wins 10/10
of course he does. 🙂
i didnt say galactus wouldnt win against juggernaut... but assuming cyttorak is at skyfather level is rediculous 😉, cause you have nothing to base this on...
even "skyfather" level beings have repelled galactus... such as odin. not to mention that galactus has specifically stated to be not as affective against magics... which is why he doesnt like it. cause his "science based" power doesnt function proplerly against it.
but yes, galactus WOULD win...
Originally posted by KillAll
i didnt say galactus wouldnt win against juggernaut... but assuming cyttorak is at skyfather level is rediculous 😉, cause you have nothing to base this on...even "skyfather" level beings have repelled galactus... such as odin. not to mention that galactus has specifically stated to be not as affective against magics... which is why he doesnt like it. cause his "science based" power doesnt function proplerly against it.
but yes, galactus WOULD win...
Cytorrak hasnt done anything on panel beyond skyfather level therefore it stands to reason that he is ranked as skyfather level.
On top of that Cytorraks enchantments have been nullified by skyfather enhanced beings such as Thor (When he used Mjolnir to negate Cytorraks enchantments on Thor thus rendering him temporarily vulnerable) and even Onslaught who is skyfather level has negated Cytorraks enchantments.
With that in mind such a ranking is far from ridiculous. When you can post some on panel feats which show otherwise then thats how the majority will continue to rate him here. It stands to reason
As for skyfather level beings repelling Galactus, so what? He wasnt at full power and that was the reason why he came into conflict with such beings in the first place, because he wanted to rectify that situation by consuming their home or the homes of beings dear to them. Repelling Galactus under such circumstances doesnt equate them to him or discredit him as a cosmic power.
By the conditions of these forums all combatants unless otherwise stated are at full power as shown on panel therefore referring to those incidents is something of a moot point because they have no bearing on how a full powered Galactus would fare in this match or any standard match.
Galactus wins.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Cytorrak hasnt done anything on panel beyond skyfather level therefore it stands to reason that he is ranked as skyfather level.On top of that Cytorraks enchantments have been nullified by skyfather enhanced beings such as Thor (When he used Mjolnir to negate Cytorraks enchantments on Thor thus rendering him temporarily vulnerable) and even Onslaught who is skyfather level has negated Cytorraks enchantments.
With that in mind such a ranking is far from ridiculous. When you can post some on panel feats which show otherwise then thats how the majority will continue to rate him here. It stands to reason
As for skyfather level beings repelling Galactus, so what? He wasnt at full power and that was the reason why he came into conflict with such beings in the first place, because he wanted to rectify that situation by consuming their home or the homes of beings dear to them. Repelling Galactus under such circumstances doesnt equate them to him or discredit him as a cosmic power.
By the conditions of these forums all combatants unless otherwise stated are at full power as shown on panel therefore referring to those incidents is something of a moot point because they have no bearing on how a full powered Galactus would fare in this match or any standard match.
Galactus wins.
Not doing anything beyond skyfather level doesn't mean that one is equal or below skyfather level. That is stupid logic.
A power never shown doesn't equal a power non-existant.
You also fail to realize that Galactus said himself that he has a problem with magic. And that Cytorrak had trapped him in which he couldn't escape under his own power (definitely above skyfather level).
Also magic effects magic easily in comics. But magic beats science almost always (because magic is unknown and can be limitless). It is impossible to prove that a full powered Galactus could even affect a class 1 magical entity god such as Cytorrak simply because of Galactus' comments about his ability to affect magic. How do you affect a being who is magical (may be also abstract too) in nature (where the laws of physics and science can't go).
So we will assume that it is unknown whether Cyttorak is skyfather level.
But that doesn't matter. Since he has the advantage over Galactus since Galactus has no magical ability and has amitted to having problems with magic.
