Which Forum has the best debaters ?

I have a witness to that, and she genuinely was in the thread. As you'll see when I find it.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Idiots hmmmmmm

AC he rattled your cage here

and he really only responded to his name being brought up by you 🙂

Yeah? Then he obviously failed to use his prized logic and realise that all I even said was that I dislike his pointless way of conducting debates. I didn't insult or attack him. I even said that I didn't mind him.

I rattled the cage to the point that he's in defensive mode.

-AC

Any with AC in it 😛 😛

Originally posted by demigawd
HAHAHAHAHA. Would somebody like to look up "Hulk vs. Magneto"? AC's guarding that thread like he's some kind of firebreathing dragon, it's dozens of pages long, I come on, first time posting, DESTROY him and his arguments and, a few pages later, AC takes a suddenly conciliatory tone towards the whole thing, complimenting me and telling me that I gave him what he was looking for, like he knew the answer all along, lol. Then, "mysteriously", the once hot thread goes dead as everybody backs off. That, children, is what we call ownage.

Despite you later claiming "BUMP THE THREAD! SEE OWNAGE!" Everyone piled in there and got attacked by tumbleweed. There's one such claim. You'll see another soon. First:

Originally posted by demigawd
I'm not part of a "clique"

Then I refered to GS, to which you denied him being a running buddy. Only to have said previously:

Originally posted by demigawd
Because we own you and everybody else on that board, mainly.

We? Thought there was no clique? Thought he wasn't your running buddy? We? Oh wow, sure makes you look like a jackass. You need to side with an immature member in order to "own" fanboys. Sad.

Let's continue:

Originally posted by demigawd
Translation: Demigawd actually resorts to facts instead of silly wordplay and irrelevant insults to own me on every thread, so much so that I had to flee the vs. board for months and talk shit about him on a "suck AC's dick" thread where I know (or at least thought I knew) Demigawd won't find me.

Only for you to, in return, talk shit about me in a forum you knew I had left. What happened? I came back and exposed you.

Demi, took me ages to find that. Absolute ages. Do you have anything else to say now? Or have I once again completely ruined your venture into the big scary world of KMC? I suggest you go back to the forum populated by fanboys, the one I indirectly gave you. Let this be a lesson to you.

-AC

I love a good debate, but - in all the forums - the distinction between a debate and an argument often becomes blurred. I'm not saying that my shit doesn't stink, but it at least has a splash of rose petal compared to the odor of some other likely lads. I guess it must be my extravagant vocubulary which denotes me as different from the lesser mortals...

The best lie here, in the GDF - however, so do some of the worst. Does the quantity of poor debaters reduce the strength of the good ones? Perhaps, but with a shovel and a strong arm you can decipher the diamonds from the drivel.

Now, let's all make love to each other...

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
I love a good debate, but - in all the forums - the distinction between a debate and an argument often becomes blurred. I'm not saying that my shit doesn't stink, but it at least has a splash of rose petal compared to the odor of some other likely lads. I guess it must be my extravagant vocubulary which denotes me as different from the lesser mortals...

The best lie here, in the GDF - however, so do some of the worst. Does the quantity of poor debaters reduce the strength of the good ones? Perhaps, but with a shovel and a strong arm you can decipher the diamonds from the drivel.

Now, let's all make love to each other...

Every post should end with that invitation.

The problem is that some of the good debaters are a bit too easily drawn off topic by those who like to pop in and add nothing of value, rather than ignoring them.

That's exactly why the comics forum is as it is.

-AC

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Idiots hmmmmmm

AC he rattled your cage here

and he really only responded to his name being brought up by you 🙂

Thank you.

Nuff said on my part. I came in RESPONSE to trash you talked about me. Kind of like here, actually. Seems to be a hobby of yours, innit? 😉

I didn't talk trash, try reading the posts. If you are allowed to comment on others, others are allowed to comment on you. I dislike your debate conduct, I said so. I dislike the way you claim things then deny them whilst calling others hypocrites, I said so. Not once did I make a trash talk remark to you. Infact, as stated before, I even made a few NEAR positive comments.

So unless you've come here to retort the claims you challenged me to find, I suggest you leave before you look any worse.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Despite you later claiming "BUMP THE THREAD! SEE OWNAGE!" Everyone piled in there and got attacked by tumbleweed. There's one such claim. You'll see another soon. First:

Then I refered to GS, to which you denied him being a running buddy. Only to have said previously:

We? Thought there was no clique? Thought he wasn't your running buddy? We? Oh wow, sure makes you look like a jackass. You need to side with an immature member in order to "own" fanboys. Sad.

Let's continue:

Only for you to, in return, talk shit about me in a forum you knew I had left. What happened? I came back and exposed you.

Demi, took me ages to find that. Absolute ages. Do you have anything else to say now? Or have I once again completely ruined your venture into the big scary world of KMC? I suggest you go back to the forum populated by fanboys, the one I indirectly gave you. Let this be a lesson to you.

-AC

hahaha...as Whirly said, I made that post specifically in response to trash you talked about me. I hadn't mentioned you before, or since except when I said I came to know Cresh's name from his beating you in a FF debate, which, by the way, most agreed with me on. Then you spent the next 20 pages trying to defend yourself against everybody and looking so ridiculous that the mod closed the thread to have mercy on you.

Lesson? hahaha...you have nothing to teach me. 😛

EDIT: Nothing to retort. I don't discuss you on the vs. board. I came to that thread you quoted to respond to your criticism of me and your claims that you "whooped" me, which never happened, much like I had to respond again on this thread. You started, not me! 😄

Run along now! I'll be back on the "idiot" board if you need me. Nothing more to say here...

Originally posted by demigawd
hahaha...as Whirly said, I made that post specifically in response to trash you talked about me. I hadn't mentioned you before, or since except when I said I came to know Cresh's name from his beating you in a FF debate, which, by the way, most agreed with me on. Then you spent the next 20 pages trying to defend yourself against everybody and looking so ridiculous that the mod closed the thread to have mercy on you.

A) For a guy claiming knowledge and intelligence you seem to lack perception. Presumably you skipped English in favour of gaining all that Science you know! Let's try again: I didn't trash talk you. I critiqued you and your style. I never attacked you once, nor did I trash talk you. Which is, ironically, what you came in here doing.

B) Most didn't agree with you, actually. You claimed some ultimate slaying and most people disagreed with that. Those that DID agree said that you were over-exaggerating anyway. EG: Illadelph. He agreed with you and I disagreed with him on reasons that others agree with. He also stated his open disagreement at your sheer exaggeration, purely because he's another one of your running crew and you sided with him against me. Only to have certain members note your hypocricy. My point was that he continually twists points, ignores questions and uses flawed trickery when getting smashed, C-Master further confirmed that he does this.

We both know the mod closed it because it had got to an irrelevant point, not out of mercy. Especially seeing as I request another one be opened. Creshosk spent most of that thread doing exactly what C-Master described and people were making excuses for him. You asked for proof, I gave it. Your reply? "OWNAGE!", like the minions speak.

Originally posted by demigawd
Lesson? hahaha...you have nothing to teach me. 😛

EDIT: Nothing to retort. I don't discuss you on the vs. board. I came to that thread you quoted to respond to your criticism of me and your claims that you "whooped" me, which never happened, much like I did again on this thread. You started, not me! 😄

Run along now! I'll be back on the "idiot" board if you need me. Nothing more to say here...

You're now claiming to have whooped me here? Despite running like a scalded dog in the face of me putting up quotes that you foolishly thought I wouldn't find? Infact, had I not, you probably would have claimed you didn't say it.

So yes, run along now.

-AC

Originally posted by BackFire
Yeah, I can't even remember the last time I looked in the vs thread in the horror forum. There could be pictures of naked dead babies and I wouldn't know about it.

"The new 'Texas Chainsaw Massacre' is the better than the original, Jessica Biel is hawt!!!11111!"

Last post on the topic:

Originally posted by demigawd
Translation: Demigawd actually resorts to facts instead of silly wordplay and irrelevant insults to own me on every thread, so much so that I had to flee the vs. board for months and talk shit about him on a "suck AC's dick" thread where I know (or at least thought I knew) Demigawd won't find me.

That this was a response to trash YOU talked first. Is this your example of my "continual claims" to have driven you from the board? hahaha...I didn't realize you were such a drama queen.

In summary: AC can dish but he can't take.

Stick to the boards where your word games impress people. The act wore thin on the vs. board. 😉

Originally posted by demigawd
Last post on the topic:

That this was a response to trash YOU talked first. Is this your example of my "continual claims" to have driven you from the board? hahaha...I didn't realize you were such a drama queen.

In summary: AC can dish but he can't take.

Stick to the boards where your word games impress people. The act wore thin on the vs. board. 😉

So what does that have to do with your claims of driving me from the forum? You didn't. You know you didn't, I know you didn't, it's been established and it's childish to continue to assume that you did. So why did you? Oh that's right, childish. Again, you may have denied it had I not proven it.

How ironic, a guy who made a "name" on the biggest trash forum by being overly technical, pokes at someone for using word games. Also ironic that you claim I can dish but can't take. Isn't that why you are here? Because you can't take? If you can, infact, take critique, you'd have read my posts and realise that's what I did.

In reply to your last part: Yes, I'll stick to the forums where intelligent people gather, for the most part. You go debate Magneto Science with Wolverine29473 or JuggernautFan. Smart dude. Clearly thought wisely about all this.

-AC

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
"The new 'Texas Chainsaw Massacre' is the better than the original, Jessica Biel is hawt!!!11111!"

AHHHHHHH!!!!

My personal opinion on debates is that the 'winner' is the one who puts their point across the most convincingly, not the one who squirts out the most facts. This may seem rather paradoxical but, if you consider the nature of a civil trial, you will see that the winner is generally the one with the best lawyer - not the most facts. Obviously, some semblance of truth is still required, but it's the application of the truth - not the knowledge of it - that dictates a good debater.

Whether this is a good thing, depends on where your strength lies; reguritation of fed solids or manipulation of applied knowledge. I feel faithful to the latter.

At the request of Backdoorfire:

Now, let's all make love to each other...

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
My personal opinion on debates is that the 'winner' is the one who puts their point across the most convincingly, not the one who squirts out the most facts. This may seem rather paradoxical but, if you consider the nature of a civil trial, you will see that the winner is generally the one with the best lawyer - not the most facts. Obviously, some semblance of truth is still required, but it's the application of the truth - not the knowledge of it - that dictates a good debater.

Whether this is a good thing, depends on where your strength lies; reguritation of fed solids or manipulation of applied knowledge. I feel faithful to the latter.

At the request of Backdoorfire:

Now, let's all make love to each other...

Actually that's not so paradoxical at all - I was on a debating team back in High School, and that's often where victory lay - getting the best and most relevant facts to the argument, and then presenting them in a convincing, comprehensive, coherent way with a suitable amount of conviction.

Debates, especially good debates, are more then a sterile procedure and presentation of dry fact combined with a oblivious and/or heated pig headiness - they are stylistic, intelligent and dynamic. Skilled, charismatic, entertaining, insightful. Actually not only are good debates like this, but so to are good debaters, as really a good debater makes a good debate.

I never could stand those times when the opposing team took a "nah, nah, nah, nah" approach to proceedings, never giving an actual rebuttal, basically they would just go "well, everything the opposing team said is wrong because we are right." Oh yeah? Show us HOW we are wrong! Show us WHY you are right! Actually debate INSTEAD of just giving a speech you fools! Deal with what we are saying, just as we are dealing with what you're saying! Of course as annoying as they were, they were also kind of fun - such teams usually went down with such ease it was cruel. Just, but cruel. Teams like this were usually the ones from primarily physical sports orientated schools, or hard line Christian schools.

Eh, that's what I was implying. I merely remarked that the nature of it would appear paradoxical to some, but this isn't the case.

My vote goes to the GDF as well. There are indeed somme very skilled debaters here. mean I guess there are good debaters in every forum but the issues in the Comic Book Forum are just not as...important....to show the true abilities of a debater.

Originally posted by Bardock42
My vote goes to the GDF as well. There are indeed somme very skilled debaters here. mean I guess there are good debaters in every forum but the issues in the Comic Book Forum are just not as...important....to show the true abilities of a debater.

I like the GDF forum for debates more, but there are only a few debators I think are admirable.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Hmmm. Then I'm not sure about the validity of claiming the best debaters are in comics. It's, by your and others words a humorous, escapist place where people argue about irrelevant things, often with a lot of bias,, a lot of pig headiness, pseudoscience and no intention of changing their opinions regardless of what comes up. And failing totally to change other peoples opinions at the same time.

But none of that serious real world stuff that goes on in the GDF and philosophy forum...

But it sure does get everyone talking .... doesn't it ?

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My work here is done !

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