Which Forum has the best debaters ?

How is it good for escapism when you have people in there debating science and why Dr. Doom wouldn't beat Magneto because his suit is metal? In comics and comic debates, the purpose is to decide who would win, given the history. No character is going to stand there applying science. That's not fun and fun, for all you late-comers, is why comics are in existence.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
I disagree, you've had some problems with a number of the comic book forums best AC. A lot of people think that's why you don't visit as much these days.

Exactly. That's exactly the point I'm making. I never had "problems" with anyone on that board. I had some of my longest debates there because certain people, as previously stated, like to impress all the fanboys by posting essay after essay after essay, each time getting further into a spiral of microscopic technicality. You are obviously one of those who were impressed. I have absolutely nothing against anyone on there, at all. People are just too overly impressed.

So if by "AC, you've encountered people who, regardless of relevancy, continued to debate with you" then yes. I've never had anyone I've felt troubled dealing with. The reason I stopped going into that forum is because it became full of people who would argue blue over red if they could. People who get into specific and unrealistic scientific debates over something that is quite simple, just so they look smart. Loads of people do it. Infact, one of the reasons I was often called out on that forum was BECAUSE I don't go into massive detail, when that is exactly why those debates go on longer than needed. I left the forum because it became quite reasonable to open a thread such as "Wolverine Vs Dr. Doom" and have people actually argue for pages when it shouldn't even get past the first. My leaving that forum ALLOWED some of the now "greats" to have their reputation. It was me leaving that opened up doors for new people to "claim" the "throne". Anyone can claim otherwise. Infact, I was followed into the OTF a while back by one such person who tried and failed to "expose" how he "drove" me out of the forum. Take a look at how it was, then how it became, and you'll see that it's nothing compared to what it was.

You claim it requires imagination and such, but the point of comics isn't realism. Which makes it funny when people come in saying "That wouldn't happen, electricity is....".

VVD, Myself, Wynndar, Never, Arachnoid Freak. We were often the ones hailed on that forum, though I'm sure it mattered to nobody. It was always fun. Then it started to become a task, a boring one at that. Because people got so obsessed with "owning" that they started forgetting the purpose of comics. That being escapism and make believe.

If I want physics I'll go to a class.

-AC

Originally posted by Ushgarak
It is amazingly retarded- and also evidence of a desperate defence- to call the wide use of vocabulary pretentious, especially when you used the word pretentious yourself, which is hardly an every day word.

Im so confused now but im pretty sure you'rre proving my point !!!!!!!!

Back fire you are right .... it is the wrong use of the word !

Ha! Like I said AC, you really should consider changing whatever your current career is to politics. ✅

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Because people got so obsessed with "owning" that they started forgetting the purpose of comics. That being escapism and make believe.

i agree completely....but doesnt that make this particular forum silly and pointless? the hulk vs. superman debates seem just as silly to me as bugs bunny vs. roger rabbit (commence endless debate)

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
How is it good for escapism when you have people in there debating science and why Dr. Doom wouldn't beat Magneto because his suit is metal? In comics and comic debates, the purpose is to decide who would win, given the history. No character is going to stand there applying science. That's not fun and fun, for all you late-comers, is why comics are in existence.

Exactly. That's exactly the point I'm making. I never had "problems" with anyone on that board. I had some of my longest debates there because certain people, as previously stated, like to impress all the fanboys by posting essay after essay after essay, each time getting further into a spiral of microscopic technicality. You are obviously one of those who were impressed. I have absolutely nothing against anyone on there, at all. People are just too overly impressed.

So if by "AC, you've encountered people who, regardless of relevancy, continued to debate with you" then yes. I've never had anyone I've felt troubled dealing with. The reason I stopped going into that forum is because it became full of people who would argue blue over red if they could. People who get into specific and unrealistic scientific debates over something that is quite simple, just so they look smart. Loads of people do it. Infact, one of the reasons I was often called out on that forum was BECAUSE I don't go into massive detail, when that is exactly why those debates go on longer than needed. I left the forum because it became quite reasonable to open a thread such as "Wolverine Vs Dr. Doom" thread and have people actually argue for pages when it shouldn't even get past the first. My leaving that forum ALLOWED some of the now "greats" to have their reputation. Anyone can claim otherwise. Infact, I was followed into the OTF a while back by one such person who tried and failed to "expose" how he "drove" me out of the forum. Take a look at how it was, then how it became, and you'll see that it's nothing compared to what it was.

You claim it requires imagination and such, but the point of comics isn't realism. Which makes it funny when people come in saying "That wouldn't happen, electricity is....".

VVD, Myself, Wynndar, Never, Arachnoid Freak. We were often the ones hailed on that forum, though I'm sure it mattered to nobody. It was always fun. Then it started to become a task, a boring one at that. Because people got so obsessed with "owning" that they started forgetting the purpose of comics. That being escapism and make believe.

If I want physics I'll go to a class.

-AC

Are you referring to a certain Demi and G.S. by any chance ?

Originally posted by PVS
i agree completely....but doesnt that make this particular forum silly and pointless? the hulk vs. superman debates seem just as silly to me as bugs bunny vs. roger rabbit (commence endless debate)

No ... neither can lift a 150 billion ton mountain !

Very nicely said AC. I agree entirely.

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
No ... neither can lift a 150 billion ton mountain !

but both can take exceptional amounts of punishment. bugs bunny can take a shotgun blast to the face while roger rabbit can survive having a 1 ton safe dropped on him. 😬

see how silly this is?

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Not entirely .... i have always wondered who where the greatest debaters, but there's no real way of finding that out. The thought suddenly occurred to me when i was conceiving ideas for threads .... and it is the only place to start this thread ...

I very rarely come in here. I see little point in discussing 'real life' scenarios over the Internet !The comic book forum, is a great place for a little piece of escapism and a few laughs ... wouldn't you say Whirly ?

Ah, but you've left out my most important point, in regards to the comic book forum vs debates. People cling to their favorite characters and go with that opinion, in the face of being wrong, entirely. I'm just saying that a debate can have a clear winner, when you're dealing with hard facts. If you're dealing with a comic book character, that isn't real, you have room to continue a debate beyond it's logical conclusion.

Originally posted by PVS
but both can take exceptional amounts of punishment. bugs bunny can take a shotgun blast to the face while roger rabbit can survive having a 1 ton safe dropped on him. 😬

see how silly this is?

I love it Mann ....

IMO having to find people to talk over the Internet to talk about 'un silly' scenarios is well lame .... !

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
How is it good for escapism when you have people in there debating science and why Dr. Doom wouldn't beat Magneto because his suit is metal? In comics and comic debates, the purpose is to decide who would win, given the history. No character is going to stand there applying science. That's not fun and fun, for all you late-comers, is why comics are in existence.

Exactly. That's exactly the point I'm making. I never had "problems" with anyone on that board. I had some of my longest debates there because certain people, as previously stated, like to impress all the fanboys by posting essay after essay after essay, each time getting further into a spiral of microscopic technicality. You are obviously one of those who were impressed. I have absolutely nothing against anyone on there, at all. People are just too overly impressed.

So if by "AC, you've encountered people who, regardless of relevancy, continued to debate with you" then yes. I've never had anyone I've felt troubled dealing with. The reason I stopped going into that forum is because it became full of people who would argue blue over red if they could. People who get into specific and unrealistic scientific debates over something that is quite simple, just so they look smart. Loads of people do it. Infact, one of the reasons I was often called out on that forum was BECAUSE I don't go into massive detail, when that is exactly why those debates go on longer than needed. I left the forum because it became quite reasonable to open a thread such as "Wolverine Vs Dr. Doom" and have people actually argue for pages when it shouldn't even get past the first. My leaving that forum ALLOWED some of the now "greats" to have their reputation. It was me leaving that opened up doors for new people to "claim" the "throne". Anyone can claim otherwise. Infact, I was followed into the OTF a while back by one such person who tried and failed to "expose" how he "drove" me out of the forum. Take a look at how it was, then how it became, and you'll see that it's nothing compared to what it was.

You claim it requires imagination and such, but the point of comics isn't realism. Which makes it funny when people come in saying "That wouldn't happen, electricity is....".

VVD, Myself, Wynndar, Never, Arachnoid Freak. We were often the ones hailed on that forum, though I'm sure it mattered to nobody. It was always fun. Then it started to become a task, a boring one at that. Because people got so obsessed with "owning" that they started forgetting the purpose of comics. That being escapism and make believe.

If I want physics I'll go to a class.

-AC

Never was wasted lets look at how

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=4613050#post4613050

and has "never posted again" 🙂

I only heard Demi did something similair to you 🙂

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Ah, but you've left out my most important point, in regards to the comic book forum vs debates. People cling to their favorite characters and go with that opinion, in the face of being wrong, entirely. I'm just saying that a debate can have a clear winner, when you're dealing with hard facts. If you're dealing with a comic book character, that isn't real, you have room to continue a debate beyond it's logical conclusion.

True ... but since when has debating been about winning ??????? Even those, who in your words 'People cling to their favorite characters and go with that opinion, in the face of being wrong, entirely.' sometimes provide information that can become vital in future encounters !

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
I love it Mann ....

IMO having to find people to talk over the Internet to talk about 'un silly' scenarios is well lame .... !

discuss the silly all you wish. nothing wrong with silly...but to take a vs debate to a level of heated debate is....pathetic.

R.O.T, I'm referring to MANY people. G.S began his run on that forum by endlessly trolling me with abuse through PMs and threads after he couldn't back up his words. He's A LOT different now to how he was then and I not too long ago, said this directly to him.

As for Demigawd, I didn't mind him for the first month or so. Infact, it seemed like there were more members who had a bit of sense. However, everytime we debated it went on for ages. Which never bothers me if there's logic and sense involved. It got boring when it became essay after essay about how Magneto can do this this and this, because the laws of physics say this. That has no place on a comic book forum. If the man knows his science, that's great. I just never understood why the many kids he managed to impress didn't say "Hang on, this is irrelevant." Not to mention he tried it in the Storm/Doom thread with Galactic Storm and Stormfront (the most biased fan I've ever seen) and got completely obliterated by about 18 people. They even called themselves Team Storm. It was funny. I've said all this to him about 10 times. I even went back into that forum when I was informed that he was talking shit in my absense. He likes to side with anyone who opposes me and in that case, he got exposed by VVD (another guy who endlessly whooped him AND G.S, even did so recently) as a hypocrite. Nothing against the guy, just don't see where he gets all this imaginary glory from. I left the forum and he took the forefront. He's welcome to the "throne", but he didn't have it till the likes of VVD, Never and myself left. He still probably doesn't have it now.

Originally posted by PVS
i agree completely....but doesnt that make this particular forum silly and pointless? the hulk vs. superman debates seem just as silly to me as bugs bunny vs. roger rabbit (commence endless debate)

It was fun, that was the point. There is some kind of method to the madness, but people take it too far.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
I only heard Demi did something similair to you 🙂

He likes to believe he did. He still has yet to explain then, why I didn't immediately leave upon his arrival. I left when the forum got shit, as most sensible people can see. VVD also left around the same time, does Demigawd claim the same thing?

-AC

Originally posted by PVS
discuss the silly all you wish. nothing wrong with silly...but to take a vs debate to a level of heated debate is....pathetic.

They can get pretty heated trust me 🙂

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
R.O.T, I'm referring to MANY people. G.S began his run on that forum by endlessly trolling me with abuse through PMs and threads after he couldn't back up his words. He's A LOT different now to how he was then and I not too long ago, said this directly to him.

As for Demigawd, I didn't mind him for the first month or so. Infact, it seemed like there were more members who had a bit of sense. However, everytime we debated it went on for ages. Which never bothers me if there's logic and sense involved. It got boring when it became essay after essay about how Magneto can do this this and this, because the laws of physics say this. That has no place on a comic book forum. If the man knows his science, that's great. I just never understood why the many kids he managed to impress didn't say "Hang on, this is irrelevant." Not to mention he tried it in the Storm/Doom thread with Galactic Storm and Stormfront (the most biased fan I've ever seen) and got completely obliterated by about 18 people. They even called themselves Team Storm. It was funny. I've said all this to him about 10 times. I even went back into that forum when I was informed that he was talking shit in my absense. He likes to side with anyone who opposes me and in that case, he got exposed by VVD (another guy who endlessly whooped him AND G.S, even did so recently) as a hypocrite. Nothing against the guy, just don't see where he gets all this imaginary glory from. I left the forum and he took the forefront. He's welcome to the "throne", but he didn't have it till the likes of VVD, Never and myself left. He still probably doesn't have it now.

It was fun, that was the point. There is some kind of method to the madness, but people take it too far.

-AC

Trust me GS doesn't have the throne there 🙂 ask almost anyone

Originally posted by PVS
discuss the silly all you wish. nothing wrong with silly...but to take a vs debate to a level of heated debate is....pathetic.

No ..... its humorous !

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Trust me GS doesn't have the throne there 🙂 ask almost anyone

Truth be told, Demigawd isn't to blame for his falsely gained reputation...but he does claim it. Which is sad.

People are generally of such base intellect on that forum that they lick the exit hole of anyone operating above a single celled organism.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
R.O.T, I'm referring to MANY people. G.S began his run on that forum by endlessly trolling me with abuse through PMs and threads after he couldn't back up his words. He's A LOT different now to how he was then and I not too long ago, said this directly to him.

-AC

GS really can't stand the heat 😂 He left for two weeks recently in a hissy fit 🙂

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Truth be told, Demigawd isn't to blame for his falsely gained reputation...but he does claim it. Which is sad.

People are generally of such base intellect on that forum that they lick the exit hole of anyone operating above a single celled organism.

-AC

trust me Demi doesn't get the most votes in the best debator threads down their either 🙂

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
True ... but since when has debating been about winning ??????? Even those, who in your words 'People cling to their favorite characters and go with that opinion, in the face of being wrong, entirely.' sometimes provide information that can become vital in future encounters !

Well, there doesn't have to be a clear winner. However, people are still going to leave the arena with their opinions of who the winner was, in their mind. It's just like presidential debates on TV. And the logical conclusion is, just like presidential debates, the person enters the thread with the winner clearly set in their mind. So, Thanos v Hulk debates go on for 15 pages, and no one leaves the thread with a different or more informed opinion. So, if you're a hugh fan of the Hulk, then you're going to enter the thread and leave it with the same opinion. So, my use of the term "logical conclusion" is at the heart of my argument.