You go to war with the army you have...

Originally posted by soleran30
January 6, 2006
Extra Armor Could Have Saved Many Lives, Study Shows

By MICHAEL MOSS
A secret Pentagon study has found

ok so what is so secret about this study...............its retarded catch phrases like this that end up getting people excited and then no one looks past that crap. I am not saying that Pentagon is no good but this article from the Pentagon is shit........read it then read it again and after you decipher all the could's and maybe's you'll see this is something to just get people excited about some military action.

wtf are you saying? keep reading it until some hidden meaning pops out and i see some liberal agenda? the pentagon liberals conducted the study?

have you even read the article yet?

of coarse not. you read exactly what you just copied and pasted, and from then on verbal diarrea. nice

Originally posted by PVS
wtf are you saying? keep reading it until some hidden meaning pops out and i see some liberal agenda? the pentagon liberals conducted the study?

have you even read the article yet?

of coarse not. you read exactly what you just copied and pasted, and from then on verbal diarrea. nice

Flame on, seriously you posted the article. A liberal doesn't have to write the article for it to be liberal media. So go back to your mindnumbing bashing and continue to read your crap and realize that stories like that one are junk used by media to illicit specific responses and get rises out of people.

You say that as though the conservative media doesn't do the exact same thing.

you implied that liberals were somehow embedded in the pentagon and conducted some faux study in their name. or else you would not have questioned the credibility of the study, but rather the agenda of those who leaked the study which was supposed to remain classified material.

this makes you pretty toolish and all your posts a waste of space.

and thats it, have your last pointless word on this, so you can cease spewing excrement all over a legit topic.

kthx

Originally posted by PVS
you implied that liberals were somehow embedded in the pentagon and conducted some faux study in their name. or else you would not have questioned the credibility of the study, but rather the agenda of those who leaked the study which was supposed to remain classified material.

this makes you pretty toolish and all your posts a waste of space.

and thats it, have your last pointless word on this, so you can cease spewing excrement all over a legit topic.

kthx

I said liberal media go back reread then come back and post more flame...........afterall its what you like to do..........

Yes Lana conservative media does this as well however there isn't as much mainstream conservative media. Regardless its crap meant to stir things up because thats what PVS likes to do.

PVS, that outburst was over the top., Try and reign it in.

And whilst you are there, it's very naive to not think that the Pentagon is not riven with internal politics and agendas, including liberal ones. I don't really see that in tis report but Sleran is entitled to make the accusation.

Meanwhile... I don't care if it was highlighted a year before. It might have been highlighted ten years before. I'd be amazed if the concern was only raised within the last 12 months.

But soldiers ALWAYS whine that they don't have enough, and it normally takes a serious conflict to see the truth of things. There are lots of false leads in this area, and you talk about funds as if there are an infinite amount of them- yet people continuously complain about the military budget compared to, say, money to spend on schools and hospitals.

To make this clear- there are no big Generals who are getting rich from deliberately depriving their troops of equipment. No-one is gaining from any of this. Mistakes get made in all parts of war all the time- and that's both ways around, because sometimes a mistake is made when common soldiers are listened to, too.

None of this is in the slightest bit abnormal. Armies suffer like this all the time, and it is actually less likely now than it used to be.

Well, I certainly feel for these soldiers wich can't even comprehend how bad war will turn out for them. I think they have the right to complain.
All that dumb propaganda and not even some basic logic in making proper armor? Tsk tsk tsk..

Originally posted by Ushgarak
PVS, that outburst was over the top., Try and reign it in.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
And whilst you are there, it's very naive to not think that the Pentagon is not riven with internal politics and agendas, including liberal ones. I don't really see that in tis report but Sleran is entitled to make the accusation.

the accusation that the leaking of this classified info was probably liberal driven, but not the creation of, which i pointed out numerous times. the guy was trying to discredit the info, not the means in which it got to this thread.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
But soldiers ALWAYS whine that they don't have enough, and it normally takes a serious conflict to see the truth of things. There are lots of false leads in this area, and you talk about funds as if there are an infinite amount of them- yet people continuously complain about the military budget compared to, say, money to spend on schools and hospitals.

yet people would unanimously offer that money with the knowledge that it went onto a soldier's person and on their vehicle to protect them. even most "unamerican" leftists want their own to come home safe.

i really dont see how any of this proves that it just doesnt matter, or how a marine is "whining" because they would prefer to not be shot through their vital organs when the means to prevent this are readily available.

"Any commander who cares too much about the lives of his troops is a p*ssy"
-Richard Perle
Architect of the Iraq War, Cofounder of PNAC, suspected Israeli spy, former Reagan and Bush I cabinet member, arms lobbyist.