Spider-Man 4 Discussion

He likes Venom Allot!!!

Yes...but that doesn't mean he wants Venom in spider-man 4

Well he convinced Rami to include Venom in 3.

Yeah but what would be the point of Venom being in film 4 and his own spin off movie??

Because he is a Cash Cow

and he will take allot of money from people.

They aren't going to use him in another spider-man film...what other villains were in more that one spider-man movie? (Harry doesn't count)

OCK- Flash back

GOBLIN- flash backs and hallucinations

I mean villains in more than one who have fought spider-man

Venom is more popular then the other villains though.

Raimi and sony won't want him again, he's been used they want other new villains to fill in the gap so they can make new stories and use more classic villains...they want someone original who they haven't used, they don't wanna use Venom again

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Well he convinced Rami to include Venom in 3.

Because 3 did no Justice, Mysterio for 4

and Avi did play a big part in venom's movie debut.

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Venom is more popular then the other villains though.

Behind Green Goblin and Dr. Octopus.

He's in front of Doc. Ock.

Maybe in front of Green Goblin, but definitely Doc. Ock

Actually he knocked Green Goblin of the top spot in his SECOND APPEARANCE, GG was behind Doc Ock before he killed Gwen then venom took the reigns, Comic history got to love it.

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Because 3 did no Justice, Mysterio for 4

and Avi did play a big part in venom's movie debut.

No he didn't. Like I said, sony forced him into it. It didn't matter if Avi did or did not ask Raimi for Venom. He would have had to use him anyway.

Read it on Wikipedia, why are you fighting with me who cares? he was in the movie let us be thank-full for that, yeah come on A1, relax let the anger go and let us turn it on he who ruined Venom, Sam Rami.

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Read it on Wikipedia, why are you fighting with me who cares? he was in the movie let us be thank-full for that, yeah come on A1, relax let the anger go and let us turn it on he who ruined Venom, Sam Rami.

What anger? I was just stating that Raimi was forced into it be sony. It had nothing to do with Rad.

PS. Raimi did good with Venom concidering he was forced into it so late. The movie was originally supposed to center around the goblin legacy with sandman as a distraction. I liked Movie Venom a lot. Anyone else like him besides me?

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Actually he knocked Green Goblin of the top spot in his SECOND APPEARANCE, GG was behind Doc Ock before he killed Gwen then venom took the reigns, Comic history got to love it.

Once again comic history, has proved Ock was number 1 then Goblin after killing Gwen, then Venom took top spot now it seems to be a free for all, but Venom is still considered the top dog, History can't run away nor deny it A1, proof is sales went up when venom cropped up, and it was discovered he became top dog, since he is the only villain out to kill Spidy out of anger, he is no.1 but I doubt for much longer, Ock could take it again, GG well not in the new comics.

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Once again comic history, has proved Ock was number 1 then Goblin after killing Gwen, then Venom took top spot now it seems to be a free for all, but Venom is still considered the top dog, History can't run away nor deny it A1, proof is sales went up when venom cropped up, and it was discovered he became top dog, since he is the only villain out to kill Spidy out of anger, he is no.1 but I doubt for much longer, Ock could take it again, GG well not in the new comics.

Ock was number one first because he was the first of the trio to come to the series. When Goblin came, after people got to know him, came out on top. He stayed on top too according to that pole I saw a while ago. I also doubt that he could loose the first place in a matter of 2 or 3 years. Goblin is, without a doubt, still on top. Its just Ock and Venom I'm not sure about because they were so close.