Cannonball vs Superman vs Captain Marvel/DC

Started by WorldWarHulk4 pages

Originally posted by carver9
Read this again about there speed how it changes when theyre in space then on earth. Firelord can go the speed of light in space but on earth his speed changes a lot.

http://marveldatabase.com/Firelord_%28Pyreus_Kril%29

So, in a black hole, the speed of sound would be like multiplied by a trillion?
Things also go faster in a black hole?

The more you know!

So the debate went from Superman can't go light speed to Superman can only go light speed in space? ermmnone

If I had known you use handbook logic, I probably wouldn't have bothered.

I can sum the intellectual content of most of this debate in one smilie: dur

Nuff said. 😛

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
So, in a black hole, the speed of sound would be like multiplied by a trillion?
Things also go faster in a black hole?

The more you know!

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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
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Superman goes faster in space.
He can only go lightspeed in space, yet he escaped a double black hole.

Trying to figure out the logic involved in one of carver's posts.

Double post.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Superman goes faster in space.
He can only go lightspeed in space, yet he escaped a double black hole.

Trying to figure out the logic involved in one of carver's posts.

I was trying to figure out the logic in your post actually.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I was trying to figure out the logic in your post actually.
I know, amazing isn't it?

Not the first word I would have used actually. Impressive perhaps.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Superman goes faster in space.
He can only go lightspeed in space, yet he escaped a double black hole.

Trying to figure out the logic involved in one of carver's posts.

What was the point of this post. I agree with you, superman could probably go light speed in space. I was referring to his speed on earth. Thats why I put up the 2 bios that shows how different people fly in the earths atmosphere than in space.

Originally posted by carver9
What was the point of this post. I agree with you, superman could probably go light speed in space. I was referring to his speed on earth. Thats why I put up the 2 bios that shows how different people fly in the earths atmosphere than in space.
Except, what you are completely ignoring is:

*Not even light can escape a black hole.

*A black hole's gravity is millions upon millions more powerful than Earth's.

*Superman escaped a double black hole...

Goes back to my previous point:

*Not even light can escape a blcak hole.

What you're telling me, is that Superman can escape a black hole's grasp, but he can't travel light speed?

Nevermind the fact, that he has to travel faster than light, in the black hole, to escape it, and he is fighting against it's pull.

That feat alone puts him above light speed without a question.

Unless of course, you have an example of something going to speed of sound (what Superman is supposedly on Earth), escaping a black hole... let alone a double black hole...

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Except, what you are completely ignoring is:

*Not even light can escape a black hole.

*A black hole's gravity is millions upon millions more powerful than Earth's.

*Superman escaped a double black hole...

Goes back to my previous point:

*[b]Not even light can escape a blcak hole.

What you're telling me, is that Superman can escape a black hole's grasp, but he can't travel light speed?

Nevermind the fact, that he has to travel faster than light, in the black hole, to escape it, and he is fighting against it's pull.

That feat alone puts him above light speed without a question.

Unless of course, you have an example of something going to speed of sound (what Superman is supposedly on Earth), escaping a black hole... let alone a double black hole... [/B]

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I can tell you dont get it so Im going to leave you alone. Im going to explain it one more time. Im not screaming so dont take it like that, Im just going to put it in caps so that you could see it. I AGREE WITH YOU THAT SUPERMAN DID A GOOD FEAT IN ESCAPING A BLACK HOLE, SINCE THIS FEAT WAS DONE IN SPACE AND HE GETS LIKE A MAJOR SPEED INCREASE. NOVA, FIRELORD,ETC.... MIGHT COULD DO THE SAME THING BUUUUUT WHEN THEY GET IN THE EARTHS ATMOSPHERE IT IS A DIFFERENT STORY, UNLESS YOUR TELLING ME THAT YOU DONT THINK THAT NOVA OR FIRELORD COULD ESCAPE A BLACKHOLE. Yes superman did a good feat and Im not fussing at you about it, terrax might could do the same thing and it also states that in space he could fly at the speed of light. Im going by superman earth feats and I havent seen anything that shows that he can go the speed of light, (WHILE ON EARTH, NOT IN SPACE). Lets put it like this superman speed in space>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>earth. Now do you get what Im saying.

Originally posted by carver9
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I can tell you dont get it so Im going to leave you alone. Im going to explain it one more time. Im not screaming so dont take it like that, Im just going to put it in caps so that you could see it. I AGREE WITH YOU THAT SUPERMAN DID A GOOD FEAT IN ESCAPING A BLACK HOLE, SINCE THIS FEAT WAS DONE IN SPACE AND HE GETS LIKE A MAJOR SPEED INCREASE. NOVA, FIRELORD,ETC.... MIGHT COULD DO THE SAME THING BUUUUUT WHEN THEY GET IN THE EARTHS ATMOSPHERE IT IS A DIFFERENT STORY, UNLESS YOUR TELLING ME THAT YOU DONT THINK THAT NOVA OR FIRELORD COULD ESCAPE A BLACKHOLE. Yes superman did a good feat and Im not fussing at you about it, terrax might could do the same thing and it also states that in space he could fly at the speed of light. Im going by superman earth feats and I havent seen anything that shows that he can go the speed of light, (WHILE ON EARTH, NOT IN SPACE). Lets put it like this superman speed in space>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>earth. Now do you get what Im saying.

What you fail to acknowledge is that this wasn't exactly in space...

Light can't even escape a black hole. Light can escape Earth.
Is Earth supposed to limit his speed so much, that he goes slower on Earth than in a black hole?

Earth's atomsphere is nothing compared to the pull of a black hole.

Hell, even following your shoddy logic, Space>>>etc Earth, and yet, a black hole swallows up planets, space, time, light, matter, everything, etc.
Black Hole >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Earth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Space.

Don't make me take out a bio.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
What you fail to acknowledge is that this wasn't exactly in space...

Light can't even escape a black hole. Light can escape Earth.
Is Earth supposed to limit his speed so much, that he goes slower on Earth than in a black hole?

Earth's atomsphere is nothing compared to the pull of a black hole.

Hell, even following your shoddy logic, Space>>>etc Earth, and yet, a black hole swallows up planets, space, time, light, matter, etc.
Black Hole >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Earth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Space.

Don't make me take out a bio.

lol, I get what youre saying and that was a good post, you almost changed my mind until I thought about firelord flying inside of a blackhole and coming out without a problem.

Originally posted by carver9
lol, I get what youre saying and that was a good post, you almost changed my mind until I thought about firelord flying inside of a blackhole and coming out without a problem.
When exactly did Firelord ever state he had a problem with Earth's atomsphere?
I'm actually going to go and read that bio, to even see if it mentions this.

EDIT: I failed to see a mention of this anywhere...
I also fail to remember a time when Firelord had to, or tried to go fast on Earth, because I remember Surfer traveling just as fast on Earth.

Billy or Clark.Ball shouldn't even be here..He never beat Gladiator,just knocked him into a building,plus he does have an energy limit,he used to have to just fly around till he ran out of gas until Cable trained him.