Melkor (Morgoth) vs. Ganon

If I remember correctly, the wooden sword was the first sword you got in the begining of the game, not the white sword/master sword, dumb-dumb 🙄 😛 but I may be wrong

Would the four swords even be considered canon?

Yeah. And there is no proof that the White Sword is the Master Sword. Show me anything to back up that claim.

*calls Mr Miamoto* XD

The most logical explanation is that it is the same sword, they're both the only things that gave the Links the ability to actually put up a fight against Ganon and they're both white and blue.

And there's no proof of them not being the same sword.

More proof then the two being the same. No proof at all having the White Sword and the Master Sword being one in the same. According to all the sites the Master Sword first appeared in A Link to the Past. And that still doesn't explain why Ganon was being injured by the Megaton Hammer/Baron's Sword in OoT or how come you can defeat Ganondorf in OoT with the Baron's Sword or defeating Ganon with the Four Swords.

Hmmm *calls again* XD

But I wouldnt say that's the canon WAY to beat him, except for Four sword that may be a non-canon adventure

Originally posted by Tallis
what makes you think he'd get the chance. Oh I'm guessing Ganondorf is just GOING to let a mountain fall on him. He'll teleport out of the way. blast Morgoth from behind. Then they'd find out they can't kill each other, then they'd Kill Link and Everyone in Middle-Earth/Hyrule and call it a day

i doubt Ganon can teleport far enough to escape Morgoth, if it was so easy he could teleport anywhere he likes in the Link games before link could defeat him, anyway Morgoth can send mountains, drown him with sea's, burn him with fire. Also where is the battle, if it is in Arda then Morgoth can simply sing him out of excistance but if not he could just do all those other things. either way neither wins, case closed

Originally posted by ESB - 1138
More proof then the two being the same. No proof at all having the White Sword and the Master Sword being one in the same. According to all the sites the Master Sword first appeared in A Link to the Past. And that still doesn't explain why Ganon was being injured by the Megaton Hammer/Baron's Sword in OoT or how come you can defeat Ganondorf in OoT with the Baron's Sword or defeating Ganon with the Four Swords.

That was because it is the players choice, and it would be impossible if it wasn't that way. Try hitting him with megaton hammer in the end when you are supposed to finish him off....

And Ganondorf himself says that he let's this little kid "Link" run around crashing all of his temples, just so Zelda would revile herself, so he would not need to teleport to him. And Ganon also is very overconfident against Link, he thinks he is a mere child...

Originally posted by kamikz
That was because it is the players choice, and it would be impossible if it wasn't that way. Try hitting him with megaton hammer in the end when you are supposed to finish him off....

And Ganondorf himself says that he let's this little kid "Link" run around crashing all of his temples, just so Zelda would revile herself, so he would not need to teleport to him. And Ganon also is very overconfident against Link, he thinks he is a mere child...

he was referring to when Link (like in a Link to the Past) when Ganon is clearly near death and he doesn't teleport away. And again Four Swords.

Probably cause he can still fight and tries to, he wants the triforce more than anything... Also, people don't always think about such things in a battle. He was clearly able to do it, just because he didn't on a couple of occasions does not mean he can't.

Originally posted by ESB - 1138
Morgoth before he gave his power away to his creations vs. Ganon in a Link to the Past

Why exactly are you giving Morgoth all his powers, but limiting Ganon to Link to the Past? If Morgoth is as powerful as you say he is, surely you would want to make this match a little more even and allow Ganondorf/Ganon from all the games?

Because Ganon in a Link to the Past was able to turn the Sacred Realm to the Dark World. Which clearly means Ganon was strongest in a Link to the Past if he could turn the Sacred Realm which is the realm that is suppose to stop evil into darkness.

So you're saying Ganon is stupid in battle? Wait so does that mean Ganon can't defeat Bongo Bongo? Because the only way to defeat him was with arrows. So I guess Bongo Bongo is invincble as well expect against arrows.

Bongo Bongo was an ally

Originally posted by ESB - 1138
I'm sorry do I see a fanboy? If Ganondorf can't be hurt by anything expect light weapons then why come the Megaton Hammer placed the great Ganon onto the ground. Ganon is powerful and I'll admit that but saying he's immune to everything but the Master Sword and Light Arrow is stupid. What's so special about the Master Sword? No games tells you how the Master Sword was forged.

read the official home page. it says about the master sword that it's make by the best material in the entire hyrule, of all that's good and blessed by the gods.

Ganondorf doesn't get hit by the megaton hammer. It's just game play and non canon.

And if it was so easy killing him without light then why didn't link gather an army if archers to shoot him down. because arrows doesn't bite.

and if you want a new answer to the topic. I'd say morgoth wins. because of the silmarills, just as burning thought said. still moroth is maybe a little too dark to use them.

Originally posted by ESB - 1138
Because Ganon in a Link to the Past was able to turn the Sacred Realm to the Dark World. Which clearly means Ganon was strongest in a Link to the Past if he could turn the Sacred Realm which is the realm that is suppose to stop evil into darkness.

So you're saying Ganon is stupid in battle? Wait so does that mean Ganon can't defeat Bongo Bongo? Because the only way to defeat him was with arrows. So I guess Bongo Bongo is invincble as well expect against arrows.

Ganon is the strongest because he broke out? He did that in WW as well, and he just grew weaker and weaker, not practise in hundreds and hundreds of years, no new knowledge or anything. We could say that the sacred realm grew weaker and weaker...

WTF!! No one ever mentions anything about Bongo Bongo being invinsible to anything but arrows, you just don't reach him in gameplay. You seem to take gameplay before anything else, would you think that Tidus in FFX would take thousands of hits in the face with a gun because he has 20k health and the shot only takes 1? Ganondorf has been seen canonically to be immune to normal damage, it has been told by the people that knows more info about him than anyone else that he is unstoppable without the master sword. Why else would they send Link and Link only to gather up to the triforce of courage, get through temples to test his strenght and goodness, and power up the master sword to defeat Ganon....

Has anyone ever thought that Ganon can only be injured by certain weapons is to make the game challenging? I doubt a little cape could actually prevent Morgoth from attacking Ganon. Oh and play Four Swords Adventures because that game tells you about Ganondorf's transformation into Ganon.

To make it challenging, how? In gameplay you can use whatever, in the scenes and such the only thing that can defeat him is the master sword....

And yet Link was able to wound Ganon with any weapon. Have you ever thought that's all that is needed? To bring Ganon down to his knees asking for mercy? A giant hammer crushing Ganon (may or may not) kill him but it sure will injure him. Being Immortal and Invincible are different things.

No....

Play WW again, ok I'll tell you the deal.

Link enters the room and sees Ganondorf. After he talks a little Link runs forward with the master sword and strikes him from head to toe, NOT A SCRATCH. Ganondorf laughs and prepares to kill him. Then a Rito comes in through the window and grabbs Link and gets him out of there. Suddenly, Valo the dragon appears outside and takes a deep breath and fill the whole place with a wave of fire and the roof falls apart on Ganon, again NOT A SCRATCH.
Quit the bullshit.... Gameplay is not canon.

Originally posted by ESB - 1138
Morgoth before he gave his power away to his creations vs. Ganon in a Link to the Past

So what's the deal with WW? This is Ganon not Ganondorf. If you played Four Swords Adventures you'll discover that Ganondorf's weak willed was overtaken and was forever changed to Ganon.

Ok so he beats Ganon in a Link to the past, but not Ganondorf in WW-OOT. Ok?

(Didn't see it said Link to the past)