You will be hardpressd to find a scientist who'll say that it is 100 % certain that humans are behind Global Warming.
Why? Because scientists base their facts on research, statistics etc. And we do not have enough climate-dates to be absolutely sure.
But almost everything we see points to the conclusion, that our CO2-emissions are causing the rise in global temperatures.
That rise is REAL. Period. Is it just a fluctuation caused by solar radiation? CO2 emissions? Both? The icacaps are melting (Oh, and yes, ice is more "massive" than water, but when water is HEATED it will expand!), the Great Barrier Reef is being scorched, heaviest hurricane season ever etc. etc. Why on Earth take the risk of it NOT being manmade and try to change path?
CO2-smog is not good for anyones health. Lack of ozone is not either. Chemicals in rivers and oceans are poison.
I guess as long as oil-companies are the richest in the world, and money makes the world go around, we'll just consume until someone realises that we can't eat money (shrugs)...
So - NO scientist can claim that manmade global warming is junk. The fact is, that sciencist do not have enough statistics. See? It's this abuse of science's adherence to correctness, facts and research that is the problem.
Originally posted by The Omega
So - NO scientist can claim that manmade global warming is junk. The fact is, that sciencist do not have enough statistics. See? It's this abuse of science's adherence to correctness, facts and research that is the problem.
You would advocate a more pragmatic scientific approach then?
I'd say that since CO2 IS a greenhouse gas (look at Venus!), and since most scientific models point to rising temperatures and some rather bleak scenarios I think it's just plain insane to follow the path we are on now.
I think we should all commonly realise that our health is being damaged by smog, chemicals, poisons (in our air and food and water), and that we will all benefit from changing lanes.
The oil-reserves are NOT infinite, gas is poisneous... I mean, come ON... choal is not good for you either...
We need a good reneweable energy-source for the future as it IS. We need to deal with our garbage-problems...
For the good of every human on this planet.
Go Iter!
Originally posted by The Omega
I'd say that since CO2 IS a greenhouse gas (look at Venus!), and since most scientific models point to rising temperatures and some rather bleak scenarios I think it's just plain insane to follow the path we are on now.
I think we should all commonly realise that our health is being damaged by smog, chemicals, poisons (in our air and food and water), and that we will all benefit from changing lanes.
The oil-reserves are NOT infinite, gas is poisneous... I mean, come ON... choal is not good for you either...
We need a good reneweable energy-source for the future as it IS. We need to deal with our garbage-problems...
For the good of every human on this planet.Go Iter!
please read the thread before posting simplistic scenarios, what is poisneous?
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
You would advocate a more pragmatic scientific approach then?
Oh, certainly!
i agree.so is the problem carbon or cutting down the trees??
Originally posted by jaden101
a simple way to think of global warming is the experiment you do in high school with pond weedput it in water...shine a light on it...and it makes bubbles...the brighter the light, the faster the reaction...the hotter it is, the faster the reaction
the pond weed is using carbon dioxide and producing oxygen
the same happens to the earth as a whole
the more it warms up...the faster the trees etc, convert carbon dioxide to oxygen and thus help to restore the balance
the only problem is that something like 70% of the forests of 200 years ago have been cut down
I have to say that these scientists feel global warming is a crock because the cap n trade regime primarily focuses on carbon.Now everybody knows the problem in our planet is pollution.Is that what is causing climate change? i doubt it.But it definatly isn't sanitary and causes other serious issues.Pollution should be the real issue at hand.They say it's pollution but the plan is carbon.Destroying the lives of people with a disguise of saving the planet is completely wrong.Taxing is the form of controlling the people. After all it was big government that created industry not us.
There are definite ways to help eliminate pollution.Furthering the ruin of the economy is far from it.Lets give an example here.Anyone hear of the north pacific gyre? And how it is accumulating plastic trash that is now twice the size of the state of Texas and growing? How about addressing this issue..the issue of petroleum and what it does to our wildlife..or how about Palin and her ariel killings of wolves?How about the use of paper when we have the technology to go without it enabling forests to be left alone? it goes on and these issues don't need taxing they need a sense of community..thats what separates the government and the people.
Are all these scientists on board with my beliefs?Who knows, but isn't clear that it's time we come together....instead it just feels we are just coming apart.
There have been at least 4 ice ages in the remote past (most likely more), and in between each of these ice ages there was a warming period. Sense humans were not around at the time, what caused these warming period? Also, how do we know for sure that this same mysterious mechanism that caused the warming periods in the past is not to blame for the current warming period?