There aren't many truly defenseless animals🙂
That said if Greenpeace is so powerful then they should find other means to deter the whale hunters. Obviously if they as an organisation cannot find an alternative means to deter whale hunters other then shoving humans in front of harpoons think about what type of organisation that truly is. Selective value of life is convenient for large "organizations" wouldn't you agree.
Greenpeace relies on donations and volunteers, while they step up to face well financed and powerfull nations.
And may I please correct you on your quote 'There aren't many truly defenseless animals'.
If your aiming at those few occasions in which a person get's offed by a bull or tiger a year; correct, face to face and unarmed, many animals would make any man bite the dust. But those are rare exeptions now.
For over many centuries humans have put technology to use in killing animals, with frighting results. No animal is able to defend itself when man wants to kill it. Not since the last... let's say 5000 years.
Originally posted by Pandemoniac
Greenpeace relies on donations and volunteers, while they step up to face well financed and powerfull nations.And may I please correct you on your quote 'There aren't many truly defenseless animals'.
If your aiming at those few occasions in which a person get's offed by a bull or tiger a year; correct, face to face and unarmed, many animals would make any man bite the dust. But those are rare exeptions now.
For over many centuries humans have put technology to use in killing animals, with frighting results. No animal is able to defend itself when man wants to kill it. Not since the last... let's say 5000 years.
you asked for permission then did it without a response tsk tsk.....
no you cannot correct my quote about defenseless animals🙂 Woops you already did it. They are facing at least in this piece 2 nations. I wouldn't say that Norway is a significant economic powerhouse. That said I understand their mission its how they execute their plans I laugh at.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
As I have said many times, I agree with the idea behind their actions, however, I think they go about it in a ridiculous manner.
Yes, I agree entirely. But then I guess the question is what other manner is there to protest? Apparently Japan has ignored the diplomatically worded condemnation from non-whaling nations, and unless those same nations start acting tough it seem that people like this will continue to act in a dangerous and silly manner.
Or, I guess there is the Sea Shepard approach, which is to sink the whaling ships, which could bad for all concerned, though they haven't killed anybody in the process yet, one wonders how long it will be before that might happen.
And I think it's about time that Japan drops the whole "we kill 350+ whales a year for scientific research" - research into what? Virtually every other nation that studies whales does it while they are alive, or look at ones that died of natural causes (or beach themselves and die) - and these whale friendly studies usually produce more data in a couple of years then Japan has it it's entire history of whaling (the actually whaling years and the sudden switch to "scientific research"😉 I mean, I pop into my university library and go and look at marine biology and whales, well, amongst the thousands of journals and books on the subject, there is very, very little from Japan. We have European, US, Australian, Chinese, Indian and even a couple from New Zealand amongst others, but virtually nothing AT ALL from Japan. I mean one really in depth journal article I found from a Japanese marine biologist on whales was a response to a US marine biologists article.
And is it a coincidence that soon after such scientific research culls there is an influx of whale meat into the Japanese delicatessens? I mean, where does it come from if they are only killing for scientific research as they claim?
My real pointis that there are just causes in every "struggle". However, what other organization goes about their mission in such a ridiculously and openly radical manner? I mean, if the womens rights movement had gone about it's goals in such a fashion, all women would be locked away or chained to their bed post. If gay rights actavists tried to stop government officials from voting against gay rights by blowing up a limo carrying the speaker of the house, gays would be dragged from their houses and beaten in the streets. Or people who are against the death penalty by killing the warden on his way to the prison on the night of the execution.
In the article, the guy says that Greenpeace will have to "reevaluate" their methods? But, this isn't the first ti some shit like this has happened. So, it's clear that the organization needs to be held accountable in a more severe manner. Fine them out of existence, or just flat out shut them down. These are supposed to be human beings, who know better. It's like abortion clinic bombers! Fight for life by killing someone? It's counter productive.
Originally posted by GCG
Attention on the cause, not on themselves.
True. And foolish as the way they can go about it can be, what's happening here is indeed getting their cause attention. The pictures that accompany this article are usually the small green peace boat, dwarfed by the whaling ship, a dead whale bleeding in the water near by. You rarely even see the person knocked over board.
I doubt the protesters want to die, or even be seriously hurt, but by putting themselves in such a position they are getting people talking, rating the 2nd, 3rd or 4th pages in newspapers, news and all that. Seeing dead whales or seeing Japanese whalers still firing despite the risk to human life. The media can be a powerful tool, and really, Greenpeace are making better use of it then the whalers.
Although there probably wont be anything else like this for a while, apparently the Green Peace ships are leaving to refuel, and according to news services wont be able to return till towards the end of the hunting period.