Saruman: Pure Evil or Corrupted?

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Boromir turned from evil (trying to take the ring from Frodo) to good (trying to save Merry and Pimpin)

More like Boromir couldn't resist the temptation of the Ring, but his heart was good at heart. Boromir wasn't evil at that time, he was moreso ensnared.

Boromir was NEVER evil, Boromir was a good man who was tempted by the Ring. Saruman was once a good man, but he was corrupted. I believe it was the Palantir, and that perhaps he communicated to Sauron when he was just the necromancer of Mirkwood in the Hobbit...

Originally posted by Knightfall93
Boromir was NEVER evil, Boromir was a good man who was tempted by the Ring. Saruman was once a good man, but he was corrupted. I believe it was the Palantir, and that perhaps he communicated to Sauron when he was just the necromancer of Mirkwood in the Hobbit...

Agreed.

After all, if Saruman was always evil, why would Gandalf have allowed him to control the Istarii?

Sarumon didn't start off evil. If he he was than why would Gandalph, who has an uncanny ability to read people, befriend him? No, Sarumon, like Boromir, was ensnared.

Sauron like Saruman became evil. And Sauron started good.

Did anyone actually bother to read the Silmarillion? that was DREADFUL and boring... it's more like a record than a noivel...

Ive read it! I wouldnt say its boring, just hard to get into. You really have to concentrate to understand it

Sauron was good, as was Sarumon AND the mouth of sauron AND Gollum...geeze alot of weak minded people back then. The JEdi would have had a field day back than with all those weak minds...Jedi mind tricks left and right.

Originally posted by Blaxican_Hydra
Sauron was good, as was Sarumon AND the mouth of sauron AND Gollum...geeze alot of weak minded people back then. The JEdi would have had a field day back than with all those weak minds...Jedi mind tricks left and right.

No; Sauron, Saruman, and (I guess) the Mouth of Sauron weren't weak minded more weak willed like Anakin.

After all, if Saruman was always evil, why would Gandalf have allowed him to control the Istarii?

Gandalf allowed nothing. Saruman was his blatant superior, and was thus given control of the Istari and the White Council.

It's true he started out as a good man, but Saruman was being slowly consumed by corruption ever since he began studying the Ring. Gandalf could not sense it until Saruman revealed it to him; Saruman being more powerful even in his "of many colors" state.

Originally posted by Razielim
Saruman was corrupted ever since he first began studying Sauron's Ring of Power (He was the one appointed to the task, being the most powerful of the White Council). By the War of the Ring, he's pure evil. No question about it.

OK so he became pure evil after studying about the ring... Well then he wasn't evil when he landed in the gray harbors. If you are pure evil you will have to be it all the way throuh your life. (Like stewie in fameli guy) 😆 I wouldn't call it evil but he always wanted more and it made him evil in the end.