Originally posted by markie
You can rationalize it any way you want to but I believe it does happen.
No rationalization: I only speak strongly against it because of the evil that believing this distorted myth brings to people's lives, like my past. I know this for a fact, that children have been beaten because their parents thought they were possessed.
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Originally posted by ShakyamunisonYes that's bad, but the fact is that the teaching itself is not wrong as much as the people who taught it were wrong in the way they taught it.
No rationalization: I only speak strongly against it because of the evil that believing this distorted myth brings to people's lives, like my past. I know this for a fact, that children have been beaten because their parents thought they were possessed.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No rationalization: I only speak strongly against it because of the evil that believing this distorted myth brings to people's lives, like my past. I know this for a fact, that children have been beaten because their parents thought they were possessed.
So are you going to not believe in it because a couple of ignorant parents decided to take things too far?
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Originally posted by Punker69
So are you going to not believe in it because a couple of ignorant parents decided to take things too far?
No, this form of thinking starts at the core of a particular mind set of superstitions that are evil in the sense that they only lead to suffering. That is what I don't believe in.
Originally posted by markieIf your religious or someone tells you your possessed you might feel you are.
II wasn't taking any pills and I don't care to talk about it. You bunch of atheists wouldn't believe it anyway and I don't want to talk about it.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No rationalization: I only speak strongly against it because of the evil that believing this distorted myth brings to people's lives, like my past. I know this for a fact, that children have been beaten because their parents thought they were possessed.
True many parents are ignorant and superstitious.
Anneliese Michel was diagnosed by doctors as suffering from grand mal epilepsy, a condition of the brain that causes severe seizures.
This, compounded by other possible mental and psychological disorders, resulted in hallucinations of demonic faces and voices. Her religious parents, apparently baffled and frustrated by their 16-year-old daughter’ s increasingly psychotic and often violent behavior, chose to thwart the medical diagnosis and sought an exorcism.
For years, the Church refused to grant an exorcism. They accepted the medical diagnosis, finding no supernatural criteria to warrant an exorcism. Despite this lack of evidence, however, in 1975 the Michels finally convinced priests to perform exorcisms, only reinforcing Anneliese’ s delusion that demons were inside her.
Anneliese Michel was not possessed, she required heavy duty medical attention.
Sabrina Wright confessed in a New York court that she killed her 4-year-old daughter by holding her too long under water as part of an effort to exorcise evil from her.
People who were thought to be possessed by demons and other evil spirits are considered to be suffering from such brain disorders as Tourette Syndrome, schizophrenia, epilepsy or any number of psychiatric problems. At best, they are people with overactive imaginations under the negative influence of the occult and related media.
Originally posted by Storm
Anneliese Michel was diagnosed by doctors as suffering from grand mal epilepsy, a condition of the brain that causes severe seizures.
This, compounded by other possible mental and psychological disorders, resulted in hallucinations of demonic faces and voices. Her religious parents, apparently baffled and frustrated by their 16-year-old daughter’ s increasingly psychotic and often violent behavior, chose to thwart the medical diagnosis and sought an exorcism.
For years, the Church refused to grant an exorcism. They accepted the medical diagnosis, finding no supernatural criteria to warrant an exorcism. Despite this lack of evidence, however, in 1975 the Michels finally convinced priests to perform exorcisms, only reinforcing Anneliese’ s delusion that demons were inside her.
Anneliese Michel was not possessed, she required heavy duty medical attention.Sabrina Wright confessed in a New York court that she killed her 4-year-old daughter by holding her too long under water as part of an effort to exorcise evil from her.
People who were thought to be possessed by demons and other evil spirits are considered to be suffering from such brain disorders as Tourette Syndrome, schizophrenia, epilepsy or any number of psychiatric problems. At best, they are people with overactive imaginations under the negative influence of the occult and related media.
Well said!
Thats fine and everything but why have a I actually seen a woman start being suddenly OK when a man commanded what was inside of her to come out? If you had seen what I had seen (not only this time but previous times) then you would be able to tell that it wasn't simply a medical sickness. Im not saying that mistakes have never been made before involving demonic possesions but im simply saying that this case and another case I saw were a demon was cast out of a woman weren't in any way medical. I know its hard to believe since you weren't there but trust me.
And please stop saying she was a whore for attention and all this other stuff. She wasn't and I can assure you that. If I had any doubts about her intentions then I wouldn't be bringing you this story. And besides, she's one of those girls that really cares what people think about her. She wouldn't embarass herself in front of her closest friends and be known as the girl that was posessed just for a little attention.
Originally posted by Punker69
Thats fine and everything but why have a I actually seen a woman start being suddenly OK when a man commanded what was inside of her to come out? If you had seen what I had seen (not only this time but previous times) then you would be able to tell that it wasn't simply a medical sickness. Im not saying that mistakes have never been made before involving demonic possesions but im simply saying that this case and another case I saw were a demon was cast out of a woman weren't in any way medical. I know its hard to believe since you weren't there but trust me.And please stop saying she was a whore for attention and all this other stuff. She wasn't and I can assure you that. If I had any doubts about her intentions then I wouldn't be bringing you this story. And besides, she's one of those girls that really cares what people think about her. She wouldn't embarass herself in front of her closest friends and be known as the girl that was posessed just for a little attention.
This is not a case of demonic posession; it is a case of a girl who is badly in need of attention.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
This is not a case of demonic posession; it is a case of a girl who is badly in need of attention.
I wouldn't bring you this story if I wasn't sure that this wasn't some cry for attention. Would you want to be considered as some sort of freak? She didn't get alot of attention. After the service everyone just stayed away from her. Plus, I know this girl. I've known her for about two years. She's not one to do something like this just for attention. Anyways, ifs that only opinion that you have on the matter then you've stated it fine.
Like I said, I started crying for about 30 minutes. Not because of the girl but because I felt such a depth of realism in the room. Thats the only way I can explain it really. Just a terrible feeling of demonic realism. Like as much as I want to try and tell myself that these things aren't real I just couldn't at that moment. Once I saw this girl that i've known for years squirming on the floor and screaming when people started praying for her I just couldn't hold back any longer.
The speaker said that the reason it happens is because when you hold on to these bad things in your life you for so long and you finally come into a place were God wants to move and have his way with you you cant control whats inside of you. Thats the jist of what he said.
Originally posted by Punker69
I wouldn't bring you this story if I wasn't sure that this wasn't some cry for attention. Would you want to be considered as some sort of freak? She didn't get alot of attention. After the service everyone just stayed away from her. Plus, I know this girl. I've known her for about two years. She's not one to do something like this just for attention. Anyways, ifs that only opinion that you have on the matter then you've stated it fine.Like I said, I started crying for about 30 minutes. Not because of the girl but because I felt such a depth of realism in the room. Thats the only way I can explain it really. Just a terrible feeling of demonic realism. Like as much as I want to try and tell myself that these things aren't real I just couldn't at that moment. Once I saw this girl that i've known for years squirming on the floor and screaming when people started praying for her I just couldn't hold back any longer.
The speaker said that the reason it happens is because when you hold on to these bad things in your life you for so long and you finally come into a place were God wants to move and have his way with you you cant control whats inside of you. Thats the jist of what he said.
You are trying to prove something that cannot be proven.