Originally posted by KharmaDog
Can I ask where you got this reference?
Gen 6:1 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they [were] fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also [is] flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown.
Gen 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man [was] great in the earth, and [that] every imagination of the thoughts of his heart [was] only evil continually.
Gen 6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
These verses are taught in MOST denominations that the sons of god were angels having sex with the women of the earth which resulted in giants such as Goliath.........It is commonly taught that god sent the flood on the earth to wipe them out except Noah, because he was pure in his generations.
ok, I see that most of you here think that the Bible is bogus and contains many flaws, but how many of you believe in evolution? Evolution has far more "flaws" than the Bible has, just do research, evoulution makes no sense at all if you think about it. The brain alone is so complex that it could not be created by chance, it had to have a maker, the brain is so complex that you would have a better chance of a computer growing out of the ground!
Originally posted by =Mysta=-kILL
ok, I see that most of you here think that the Bible is bogus and contains many flaws, but how many of you believe in evolution? Evolution has far more "flaws" than the Bible has, just do research, evoulution makes no sense at all if you think about it. The brain alone is so complex that it could not be created by chance, it had to have a maker, the brain is so complex that you would have a better chance of a computer growing out of the ground!
Nothing happens by chance. You most likely know nothing about evolution. I do not believe the bible is bogus, I think the people who take the bible literally are missing the truth in the bible and are lost in dilution.
Originally posted by =Mysta=-kILLI didn't say there was not some intelligence, not at all.
ok, I see that most of you here think that the Bible is bogus and contains many flaws, but how many of you believe in evolution? Evolution has far more "flaws" than the Bible has, just do research, evoulution makes no sense at all if you think about it. The brain alone is so complex that it could not be created by chance, it had to have a maker, the brain is so complex that you would have a better chance of a computer growing out of the ground!
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Nothing happens by chance. You most likely know nothing about evolution. I do not believe the bible is bogus, I think the people who take the bible literally are missing the truth in the bible and are lost in dilution.
Originally posted by =Mysta=-kILL
And why shouldnt they take the Bible literally? It makes alot more sense than evolution, the big bang theory, and others that people theorys and hypothosis that people have thought of over the years. First of all, maybe evolution isnt "all" about chance, but the big bang theory sure is. It states the life came from nothing..doesnt really make sense to me, wouldnt you rather believe that God created the universe, than nothing created the universe, it just appeared?
And then theres evolution. It is a theory based off of an organism mutatating into another and natural selection depletes the old being of the orgamism. ummm..isnt mutation a bad thing? Mutation is the enemy of life forms, if a baby was born with a mutation, it wouldnt be a step forward in evolution, it would be a step back from established perfect creation. And then I have a question that I need answered, "If evolution were true, and we evolved from monkeys, why are the monkeys still here?" lol it kind of makes me laugh to think about it, and yet scientists still believe it, even with all the missing links.
I'm sure I could ramble on about all the flaws in evolution forever because there are so many, but for now I'm just gonna leave you with this,"This law of physics states that the universe is in a process of deterioration. It is breaking down, giving out energy that leaves it “weaker” than before. (This implies that the condition of the universe was once perfect before entropy began-the exact teaching of Scripture!). Yet, evolution is a building-up process, suggesting that things tend to become more complex and advanced as time goes on. This is directly opposed to the law of entropy."
So the world is not evolving, it is actually de-volving.
Like I said, you know nothing about evolution. What you are talking about is ~70 years old. We know a lot more about evolution now then we did back then. Get up to date.
Creation, I don’t believe in creation. The universe has always been and will always be. Time is space. Big bang? Just on of a countless number over eternity.
ok you say, "The universe has always been and will always be." I find it kind of ignorant to believe that the universe has just always been, it was never created. Lets just ask the question,"What if God doesnt exist?" Wouldnt that mean the world is pointless? you could do whatever you want to and think nothing of it. You could kill someone and have no cares because life doesnt matter. But thats the thing, life does matter, that is why the world as not already resorted to chaos, because of the exsistence of God. But there will be a revalation, when God comes back and takes his followers to heaven with him, and chaos will control the world.
Originally posted by =Mysta=-kILL
ok you say, "The universe has always been and will always be." I find it kind of ignorant to believe that the universe has just always been, it was never created. Lets just ask the question,"What if God doesnt exist?" Wouldnt that mean the world is pointless? you could do whatever you want to and think nothing of it. You could kill someone and have no cares because life doesnt matter. But thats the thing, life does matter, that is why the world as not already resorted to chaos, because of the exsistence of God. But there will be a revalation, when God comes back and takes his followers to heaven with him, and chaos will control the world.
Well, you believe God has no beginning or end. I believe the universe is God and that God is not outside of us and the universe. Time is space and space has no end.
Your line of logic is flawed, there is cause and effect, karma.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Well, you believe God has no beginning or end. I believe the universe is God and that God is not outside of us and the universe. Time is space and space has no end.Your line of logic is flawed, there is cause and effect, karma.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You are talking about God as if God was outside of yourself. God is inside of each of us. There is no, God separate of "the big everything" and no "the big everything" separate of God.
Originally posted by =Mysta=-kILL
And why shouldnt they take the Bible literally? It makes alot more sense than evolution, the big bang theory, and others that people theorys and hypothosis that people have thought of over the years. First of all, maybe evolution isnt "all" about chance, but the big bang theory sure is. It states the life came from nothing..doesnt really make sense to me, wouldnt you rather believe that God created the universe, than nothing created the universe, it just appeared?
And then theres evolution. It is a theory based off of an organism mutatating into another and natural selection depletes the old being of the orgamism. ummm..isnt mutation a bad thing? Mutation is the enemy of life forms, if a baby was born with a mutation, it wouldnt be a step forward in evolution, it would be a step back from established perfect creation. And then I have a question that I need answered, "If evolution were true, and we evolved from monkeys, why are the monkeys still here?" lol it kind of makes me laugh to think about it, and yet scientists still believe it, even with all the missing links.
I'm sure I could ramble on about all the flaws in evolution forever because there are so many, but for now I'm just gonna leave you with this,"This law of physics states that the universe is in a process of deterioration. It is breaking down, giving out energy that leaves it “weaker” than before. (This implies that the condition of the universe was once perfect before entropy began-the exact teaching of Scripture!). Yet, evolution is a building-up process, suggesting that things tend to become more complex and advanced as time goes on. This is directly opposed to the law of entropy."
So the world is not evolving, it is actually de-volving.
That was the most uninformed statement about evolution I've ever read. Where the hell did you get this information from!?
I never took physics, I don't know shit about physics, I don't want to know shit about physics. For that, ask the board physicist, The_Omega (she's actually a physicist). All I know is that the universe is actually expanding at the moment, not breaking down. So there goes that argument.
However, biology is a different story.
1. Mutation is not always bad. There are both positive and negative mutations. A negative mutation is something that incapacitates or lowers the quality of life for an organism. Sometimes the mutation may be nautral (down syndrome), but most times its caused by an outside source of some kind, radiation, etc. Say more and more humans over the next few generations start developing a mutation where they grow extra fingers (its already started to happen, I know a few people with extra fingers). Now, with the normal human being's lifestyle today, how is that a disadvantage? We spend ALOT of time typing on computers, operating machinery, etc. It would only make sense.
2. Evolution does NOT mean that one organism changes into another and the first organism dies off. That only occurs when the mutation is absolutely necessary to live. I.E. when a virus mutates to survive a vaccine, the first string dies off but it's offspring live. However, usually the organism branches into a different form of the first. How are there so many different species of the same animals? The organism originates in one place, and some of it's offspring may migrate. To successfully survive in the new region, the offspring may need something extra. If it's cold, it may need more fat, if it's too hot, it may need to retain water better. The offspring in the new area evolves, but the original organism in the original area is still alive and doing fine, because it may not need to evolve quickly to survive.
Example: The Finches of the Galapagos Islands. The Finches started on one island, and thier beaks were perfectly shaped for eating seeds. Some of the Finches migrated and the finches who only ate seeds died off, leaving finches who adapted to also eating insects. Now, the Finches on the original island still eat seeds, but the newer finches also eats insects, as it's necessary to survive.
Another example: Every Christian I run into doesn't realise this, but the very medicine that ALL of you take for whatever ailment you may have comes directly from evolution. Viruses and bacteria are always changing and adapting, becoming immune to previous forms of vaccines and medications. That is why new medications are being made. The viruses EVOLVE and we need to find new ways to kill them.
There is an entire thread on evolution in the GDF. Look it up, it states everything I've just stated, and probably explains the Big Bang as well.
here it is: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27866&highlight=evolution+thread
There's 126 pages, most with outside evidence, to read through.
Originally posted by =Mysta=-kILL
Well of course God is inside of us all, that is if you have excepted him inside of you, it is then that God lives in your heart.
God is not of the world, the world is his creation, he lives in Heaven, a place that cannot be described as part of the world.
Who said god was a masculine being. In fact if there is a god, why are you calling it a he instead of an it?
Originally posted by =Mysta=-kILL
God isnt a Sexual being, but in the Bible it says he created man in his image, so I assume he is a man.
It would not be a man. If it were a man, then it would not be a god.
People wrote the bible and were orientated to believe that God was a man because women weren't worth dirt.
Originally posted by KharmaDog
It would not be a man. If it were a man, then it would not be a god.People wrote the bible and were orientated to believe that God was a man because women weren't worth dirt.
Originally posted by =Mysta=-kILL
Well of course God is inside of us all, that is if you have excepted him inside of you, it is then that God lives in your heart.
God is not of the world, the world is his creation, he lives in Heaven, a place that cannot be described as part of the world.
There is your flaw, God cannot be outside of us, and this is heaven or hell if you wish it to be.