the demon KRIVZON

the demon thing isnt really false, its just not the CHARACTERISTIC demons that are portrayed. it is more genetic orientated{yea i DO sound ridiculous to myself too sumtimes, but as ive said, ive got proof} n well, he has shown me some SCIENTIFIC stuff too, for instance hes kinda proven to me that the conservation of energy is not entirely true even if believed by mainstream science etc. i agree that it CAN be faked by right emotional level's n a knack for actin, but trust me when i say it isnt the case here, he has no reason to lie, plus hes never lied about this stuff n he practicaly HAS proved to being an uber psychic.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Yes they are in Buddhism, but they are only symbols in the mythology and to think that they are real is to be delusional.

well thas UR belief isnt it, many buddhists do believe that they exist as more than just symbols, n its not really delusional to believe in em if u can believe in stuff like nirvana or rebirth.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
the demon thing isnt really false, its just not the CHARACTERISTIC demons that are portrayed. it is more genetic orientated{yea i DO sound ridiculous to myself too sumtimes, but as ive said, ive got proof} n well, he has shown me some SCIENTIFIC stuff too, for instance hes kinda proven to me that the conservation of energy is not entirely true even if believed by mainstream science etc. i agree that it CAN be faked by right emotional level's n a knack for actin, but trust me when i say it isnt the case here, he has no reason to lie, plus hes never lied about this stuff n he practicaly HAS proved to being an uber psychic.

If you can prove that, you will be famous and rich beyond your wildest dreams.

You say you have proof, but don't show it. I don't believe you.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
the demon thing isnt really false, its just not the CHARACTERISTIC demons that are portrayed. it is more genetic orientated{yea i DO sound ridiculous to myself too sumtimes, but as ive said, ive got proof} n well, he has shown me some SCIENTIFIC stuff too, for instance hes kinda proven to me that the conservation of energy is not entirely true even if believed by mainstream science etc. i agree that it CAN be faked by right emotional level's n a knack for actin, but trust me when i say it isnt the case here, he has no reason to lie, plus hes never lied about this stuff n he practicaly HAS proved to being an uber psychic.

Originally posted by Punker69
You have no idea why I believe what I believe and the evidence that I have Jesus is real. My faith extends beyond the three demonic possesions i've posted about. They are miniscule compared to the things that Jesus brought me and my family through.

There are no good demons and bad demons. In the end they all lead back to Satan. Either your friend is really stupid and clueless about the powers he posesses or he's tricking you.

i have seen APPARENT demonic posessions which, until i denounced by wrong former relegion islam, i thought were true, they looked REAL, with the girl practically gettin upside down n walkin on the damn WALL!!!! ive seen a few n my family/old friends have seen MANY, but turn out that once i gave up the illogical thing known as faith in my relegion, i started seeing things much MUCH more clearly, i didnt wanna take things n interpret them as proof of islam beein correct, i opened my bloody eyes, n i found out that most of what happens is BULLSHIT, it is fake/orchestrated etc. they have many ways of making things look real. its only that the BELIEVERS will jump at it n the sceptics wont{just like u jumped[not tryin to offend u] at the notion of a demon n interpreted it the way u did as posession/ evil n stuff while others like debbijoe etc didnt, for obvious reason.[n yes i agree that they have EVERY REASON not to believe even though it hurts my validity]} u shudnt just take things without havin a very very good reason for believin em, sorta like proof that can be examined to be flawes in any way or not. n btw, y r u so sure that jesus gave u all that u have, many people dont believe in jesus n they have a lot more than you, n even if u believe in sumthinout there, cudnt it just as easily have been shiva or any other god that gave t to u.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
If you can prove that, you will be famous and rich beyond your wildest dreams.

You say you have proof, but don't show it. I don't believe you.

i WILL give u an answer to that question if ur willing to be open mided n listen to me.

i COULD prove to the world, if either one of those friends of mine wanted it but its not good for them{trust me they have enough crap of their own goin on} think about it, this type of thing as if found out is no AS uncommon as u think, many people can do it. but the real reason it hasnt gotten out is cause they dont want it to get out n there is a very good reason for that, people LIKE them, know the very foundation of human desires, thoughts etc{to an extent governed by their ability} n as ive found out{or rather knew even before for myself} that money/fame is NUTHING, materialistic things r just a form of torture to the soul, it can NEVER make u happy, infact itll only ruin ur life, now this might sound unbelieveable to most peope living in developed countries n many might say its bull said by people who dont have money but thas not the case! rich people although they might look happy never really are any happier than normal people, they might have to worry a lil less yes but theyr not truly any HAPPIER, infact their world is filled with purposelessnes n the feelin that this is IT, with nuthin higher n this is as good as its gonna get, infact most people like that overindulge in things that arent really important n kill their concionce n soul{in a matter of speaking}, now money/fame is just a means of gettin SUMTHIN n most believe that sumthin is hapiness but people who know thought's actions/purpose n the end result know better, it doesnt lead to happiness any more than having power, its useless n only greatens the burdens on u. its like what buddha said{NOT that i believe in buddha's teachings completely or believe that my friends/demon/psychic watever u wann call it, r anywhere near an enlightened as he was} materialistic things can never bring one hapiness, a monk might be happier than the owner of a multi billion dollar company, infact he usually is happier and more at peace with himself than the rich guy, because simply, there is no end to HUMAN, materialistic desire/lust, n even the most powerful man on earth if he wishes to look at it a certain way, is an insignificant speck in the cosmos, now THAT cud really screw him up, n hell die tryin to become more n more powerful while the other guy might die with a loving wife, a great sex life, wonderful children, surrounded by some of earth's most beautiful places and at peace with the wrest of the world. it is THIS type pf comprehension which keeps people like them away fro the public eye{in my oppinion} n form wat i know, the ones who have developed their gifts the most are the ones that do not get into greed/materialism, trust me there are those who DO, but they can never be more than average fortune tellers or fire manipulaters etc. like this one guy in london. anyway, as i was sayin, for people whove figured these things out, it is pointless to PROVE it to any1{n yes ill understand if ull call me a manipulater who cant show proof} heck they were reluctant to even admit it to me. anyway, i dont like askin em for favours, ive only asked like two times, n that was matters of sum1 ELSE'S life or death.and in the earthquake. it sounds too wannabeish n pathetic. if i insisted i CUD get u a lottery number n stuff, but i WONT, besides, u peopel act like i started this topic to prove sumthin, i ONLY wanted info on krivzon{which happened to be a bullshit name devised to piss me off 😮‍💨 } n i didnt even say anythin wierd was goin on, its only i had a bad day n people were tellin me that they didnt expect them to believe me without knowin the whole story that got my temper up n i told em all that i have{which was sumthin of a mistake} i never wanted to, all i know is that i never believed in it, n i have more than enough evidence to believe it.

oh n yea even "i" dont wanna be rich beyond my wildest dreams, i only want the girl, shes worth far more to me than any amount of money

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
If you can prove that, you will be famous and rich beyond your wildest dreams.

You say you have proof, but don't show it. I don't believe you.

well i have proof like, mind readin/fortune tellin/telekenesis/illusion casting/thought erasig etc, not exactyly stuff i can directly show u is it{even iif i wanted to n i dont} im just askin u to believe what im sayin based on the fact that ive never created false threads or followed fake things like faiths/ etc, ask debbijoe, quite a WHILE ago i evene mentioned sumwhere on here that i knew a girl who was psychic, n she said that she didnt believe it was as rare as every1 thought, this has been goin on for a WHILE now, n its not just a hoax.

There has been many experiments done in the metaphysical fields that one cannot just prove here, but still it is documented.

Hmm, I forgot why I don't come in this thread...

oh, right, THE SPELLING ZOMG IZ KILLING ME

blowup

Demons are not real, just like Jesus.

Do you seriously ever have anything worthwhile to say? You've said that about 4 times already. Your point has been made.

Originally posted by Punker69
Do you seriously ever have anything worthwhile to say? You've said that about 4 times already. Your point has been made.

The same could be asked of you. As long as you continue to insist that you have witnessed three legitimate demonic posessions, I will continue to insist that it is all make believe.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

Because you believe something does not make it true. You have a theory that demonic possession is true, based on eye witness accounts without any controlled studies. This is how everyone should look at it, just a theory.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

Because you believe something does not make it true. You have a theory that demonic possession is true, based on eye witness accounts without any controlled studies. This is how everyone should look at it, just a theory.

true

Originally posted by leonheartmm
true

Should you try to find more evidence, or do you like the idea that there are some magical things in life, like demon possession.?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Should you try to find more evidence, or do you like the idea that there are some magical things in life, like demon possession.?

if it was just any person, willing n normal with only psychic powers, i wud LOVE to not only to study the affect, logic behind, n types of psionic forces and their affect on the physical universe, BUT, this is a girl i love, not because of what she can do, but because of who she is, i liked her even before i knew, shes also, distressed because of what she has seen n even psychologists cant figure her out{on the rare occasions that shes been take to one bu friends etc cause of her beein miserable etc, they say shes just a good lil girl, maybe due to her persuasion} i neither want to nor CAN put a person like tat into such a thing, all i know is that ive seen proof enough to make me believe. n no, i dont really find the idea of genies/demon/psychics pleasing, or comforting, other than at times when im really screwed up n she can comfort me{or IF in the future we ever get married n are in bed 😄 , itd be awesome bein able to see whats in the other person's head}, i was never into these things n im still not, seein as she is a relegious person n tell me that god exists, but i dont believe it without proof, even after ive seen all that i have. anyway, im not really interested in much right now other than beein with her.......which is startin to look impossible now 🙁 . {btw, i do like the idea of magical things like dragons n knights in shinning armour n devil hunters/vampires etc, 🙂 , but its no fun when a guy tries to rape the girl u love but fails, cause she blinds em, only to find out that the innnocent lil girl saw all that was in the twisted old man's head n become extremely ****ed up n secluded because of it thinkin all men r like that, THAT kinda fantasy/unknown stuff i wish wud just go away. oh n YEA, that guy is NOT "posessed" by a demon, he just has the power of one/is a half demon, sumthin like that, ive seen many bloody exorcisms, n posessions in the xuperstituos society here n NONE of em were true, it was all bullshit.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
if it was just any person, willing n normal with only psychic powers, i wud LOVE to not only to study the affect, logic behind, n types of psionic forces and their affect on the physical universe, BUT, this is a girl i love, not because of what she can do, but because of who she is, i liked her even before i knew, shes also, distressed because of what she has seen n even psychologists cant figure her out{on the rare occasions that shes been take to one bu friends etc cause of her beein miserable etc, they say shes just a good lil girl, maybe due to her persuasion} i neither want to nor CAN put a person like tat into such a thing, all i know is that ive seen proof enough to make me believe. n no, i dont really find the idea of genies/demon/psychics pleasing, or comforting, other than at times when im really screwed up n she can comfort me{or IF in the future we ever get married n are in bed 😄 , itd be awesome bein able to see whats in the other person's head}, i was never into these things n im still not, seein as she is a relegious person n tell me that god exists, but i dont believe it without proof, even after ive seen all that i have. anyway, im not really interested in much right now other than beein with her.......which is startin to look impossible now 🙁 . {btw, i do like the idea of magical things like dragons n knights in shinning armour n devil hunters/vampires etc, 🙂 , but its no fun when a guy tries to rape the girl u love but fails, cause she blinds em, only to find out that the innnocent lil girl saw all that was in the twisted old man's head n become extremely ****ed up n secluded because of it thinkin all men r like that, THAT kinda fantasy/unknown stuff i wish wud just go away. oh n YEA, that guy is NOT "posessed" by a demon, he just has the power of one/is a half demon, sumthin like that, ive seen many bloody exorcisms, n posessions in the xuperstituos society here n NONE of em were true, it was all bullshit.

I will chant for you. To me, chanting is the same thing as praying for some one. BTW chanting is really cool. I will chant that the storm in your life will change to a sunny day. I wish you great happiness. 😄

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I will chant for you. To me, chanting is the same thing as praying for some one. BTW chanting is really cool. I will chant that the storm in your life will change to a sunny day. I wish you great happiness. 😄

doubt itll work but thanx, i hope so too 🙂 . {i agree chantin n blabbering n hummin does sound more logical than askin for a higher unseen dady to bless u 😄 }

Originally posted by leonheartmm
doubt itll work but thanx, i hope so too 🙂 . {i agree chantin n blabbering n hummin does sound more logical than askin for a higher unseen dady to bless u 😄 }

If you doubt it will work, then it will not. You get what you ask for in life. Here is a secret for you; faith is not a religion, faith is the power of the mind over the body. If you calm the storms in your mind the storms in your life will go away. It is all up to you. 😉

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
If you doubt it will work, then it will not. You get what you ask for in life. Here is a secret for you; faith is not a religion, faith is the power of the mind over the body. If you calm the storms in your mind the storms in your life will go away. It is all up to you. 😉

thas never worked for me, it works for sum, but not for others.