Originally posted by -hh-
redman and meth 👆http://youtube.com/w/Method-Man-%26-Redman---Rap-City-Freestyle?v=SgkNPUeITC4&search=redman
The best part is when Red comes back in and messes up but somehow turns it into a great verse.
Meth always looks like he's battling the microphone, just easy for him.
-AC
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
i don't know. And I forget what album and track name it was, but there was a jam where I heard Prodigy sayin' something like "I'll reach out to any Squad dat's Def" He was obviously talkin about Red and them, I dunno i just always wondered if they had beef?Anyone know ?
Nah, even if he did mention them, it obviously never got to that level. P just used to hate on any MC that didn't spit straight up street anyway, he had his own ideas of what hip-hop should and shouldn't be. Ha, I'd really love to see the kinda reaction Prodigy circa '95 would give if he could see what he'd become by 2005.
Originally posted by Phat J
louis logic is probably one of my favourite mc's, i havent been listening to him long enough to see if he'll stand the test of time for me, but ive definitely been listening to all his albums over and over again. i love a rapper that doesnt give a ****, hes so consistently dope and funny at the same time. i cant get enough of him either.
Yeah he's the type that can bind totally crazy lines to a really tight structure, like that part in the opening verse of Diablos, that whole ''leave your unfortunate seeds in an orphanage'' part, just rolls straight off the tongue in terms of flow, but every single word is relevant which is something so many other MCs can't achieve. Lyrically, I don't think his shit will age, but I get the feeling a lot of the production will get outdated quite fast, some of it might even sound cheesy.
Originally posted by FistOfThe Northsee you would be right if he stopped releasing garbage after his first mainstream album. Eminem has alot of potential, he's just not using it wisely. i think he's given up. he does all this for the $$$$$$
IMO, Eminem will go down in Hip-Hop history as one of the greatest lyricists the game has known.
Originally posted by Afro Cheesehe's great without a doubt, but what he's releasing nowadays isn't consistent with what he had done in the past. i just can't consider him as one of the greats.
Yeah he fell off/sold out, that doesn't disqualify him from being one of the greats. Ice Cube did the same thing.
But the thing is, that applies to a high percentage of the great hip hop acts. Mobb Deep, Snoop and Dre, Ice Cube, Q-Tip, Public Enemy, and others have all shown huge decline in quality. They'll still go down in hip hop history as the greats. Because no matter how hard their fall is, what people are going to remember is how good these artists were in their prime.
we'll yea, like Nas said in one of his interviews, you expect for him to release another Illmatic, but it's just not gonna happen.
You can decline, and every mc does decline eventually, but he went from great to garbage. i can understand going from great to good to decent, but he literally changed. just my opinion.
Originally posted by -hh-
we'll yea, like Nas said in one of his interviews, you expect for him to release another Illmatic, but it's just not gonna happen.You can decline, and every mc does decline eventually, but he went from great to garbage. i can understand going from great to good to decent, but he literally changed. just my opinion.
That's understandable but what I was referring too was his prime.
The future does not equal the past and vise versa. The Slim Shady LP and the Marshall Mathers LP were in my opinion, his best albums. To me, his decline came after those 2 albums, but just because he was great, but then went straight to garbage doesn't mean he can't be considered as one of the greatest MC's in hip-hop ever, if he was nice in the past. No matter how low he sinks now, he still ripped it back then, in those 2 albums.
Originally posted by -hh-
nah Em can rap. he has great potential. he's just consumed by media's expectations.
i meant em cant rap now, hes showed his potential already. he just fell off.
i wouldnt consider him one of the greatest mc's ever, he wasnt that good. infinite, which is i think his best song to date, was from his first album. his next album as a whole was better after that, but there wasnt a song that beat infinite lyrically.
The Slim Shady LP was absolutely incredible.
I personally believe his following album was poor, with only a couple of good tracks. It showed that he was regretting how much he pissed off parents because it was he who needed those parents to give their kids money to buy his albums.
Now he sings songs like Mockingbird.
One famous line: "Should I dye my hair pink and care what y'all think? Lip-sync and buy a bigger size of earrings?"
Ironically he has now become a lip-syncing wannabe fashion mogul.
He's commercialised those who previously associated with Dre also, including Dre himself. Xzibit gained a legion of Shady wannabes as his fans when Eminem started appearing with him, as did Dre.
-AC