Originally posted by grey fox
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Either youre not well versed in the subjects material or you have something against the character. Either way Wolverine in his own ongoing title, his various minis and appearances in X-related titles has proved himself as an exceptional martial artist. Hence his rating in the official handbook. If you havent read enough of the relevant material then thats your problem. In such a case you should be open to such a notion considering his rating as opposed to dismissing it based on the poor showings you've seen.
However this is not the place to have this debate, if you wish to recive an education on the matter then start the thread.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Either youre not well versed in the subjects material or you have something against the character. Either way Wolverine in his own ongoing title, his various minis and appearances in X-related titles has proved himself as an exceptional martial artist. Hence his rating in the official handbook. If you havent read enough of the relevant material then thats your problem. In such a case you should be open to such a notion considering his rating as opposed to dismissing it based on the poor showings you've seen.However this is not the place to have this debate, if you wish to recive an education on the matter then start the thread.
No i understand he has superior skill in martial art's , it's just most people take it to the extreme as if he can deal with anyone with his MA abilities.....
Originally posted by grey fox
No i understand he has superior skill in martial art's , it's just most people take it to the extreme as if he can deal with anyone with his MA abilities.....
Well given his skill level he can deal with almost any street level opponent with his martial prowess alone. If people make out that he can take out beings above that category based on just his skills then that would be wrong. Either way its silly to let what are so obviously the deluded claims of fanboys turn you against a character. 🙁
The problem with Wolverine is that he is the most inconsistant martial artists in the MU. With his age and experience, he should be on of the top MA guys out their but he rarely seems to use them.
In this fight I have to go with Cyke. He did take out 6 guys with his eyes closed. I don't mean to knock Bishop, but I haven't seen a feat as impressive from him. I've seen the scans before on some site but can't seem to find them. I'll post them if I find them.
Originally posted by TheKahn
The problem with Wolverine is that he is the most inconsistant martial artists in the MU. With his age and experience, he should be on of the top MA guys out their but he rarely seems to use them.In this fight I have to go with Cyke. He did take out 6 guys with his eyes closed. I don't mean to knock Bishop, but I haven't seen a feat as impressive from him. I've seen the scans before on some site but can't seem to find them. I'll post them if I find them.
The 6 guys were just civilians, thieves to be exact. There was nothing special about them at all. So while thats impressive its hardly reason enough to give him the match over Bishop.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The 6 guys were just civilians, thieves to be exact. There was nothing special about them at all. So while thats impressive its hardly reason enough to give him the match over Bishop.
If I tried to fight 6 elderly midgets while blindfolded, I would lose. Cyke doesn't have any enhanced senses like Wolverine or Daredevil, and to me beating any 6 people without opening your eyes makes you a badass.
Originally posted by TheKahn
If I tried to fight 6 elderly midgets while blindfolded, I would lose. Cyke doesn't have any enhanced senses like Wolverine or Daredevil, and to me beating any 6 people without opening your eyes makes you a badass.
See thats the thing. Id find it a bit more impressive to if i didnt know about Cyclops enhanced senses, his "unique inborn talent for spacial geometry" But fortunately i do 😉
His enhanced senses allowing him to be instinctively aware of the relative positions of objects in his surroundings. That explains his performance when blindfolded.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
See thats the thing. Id find it a bit more impressive to if i didnt know about Cyclops enhanced senses, his "unique inborn talent for spacial geometry" But fortunately i do 😉His enhanced senses allowing him to be instinctively aware of the relative positions of objects in his surroundings. That explains his performance when blindfolded.
Or just a cheap explination of why he never misses. But you made a good point 👆 , I've heard of that ability but just didn't think of it.
Still I'm tempted to go with Cyke on this one. The two black belts have to count for something
Originally posted by GalacticStormNot really. He had to train in blind fighting specifically.
See thats the thing. Id find it a bit more impressive to if i didnt know about Cyclops enhanced senses, his "unique inborn talent for spacial geometry" But fortunately i do 😉His enhanced senses allowing him to be instinctively aware of the relative positions of objects in his surroundings. That explains his performance when blindfolded.
Originally posted by brainchild81
Not really. He had to train in blind fighting specifically.
His inborn ability has been refined by training. Read the scan. That ability he has explains why Cyclops could do what he did in that scene. Its not just skill its also mutant ability. The evidence is there laid out for you.
