Mr Parker, you are right in defending Batman Begins. It was a fantastic movie. But in every post, you flame on Tim Burton and his two Batman movies. The fact is alot of people liked Burton's movies. It's not because you don't like them that they are not as art as Batman Begins is. i don't like Picasso's paintings but I know it's art. Why can't you and Batman Returns just agree that both of them had flaws but weren't garbage on film? I don't know how old you two are, but you can defend a movie without flaming the other one. It's just like 8 years old children when they say: "my father is stronger than yours". Movies are meant to entertain. If you don't like them, that's fine, but have respect for those who like the movie.