Is fornication a sin?

Started by xmarksthespot25 pages

Originally posted by AOR
Sex isn't a sin, ironically, it's a sin when you deprive it of it's symbolism. Aside from procreation, it is a symbol of unity of the husband in wife. A process they don't share with anyone else other than themselves. Hence when you take it outside of marriage, you use it as a tool for self-pleasure in which either gender can be considered an object. A sort of mentality that should never be considered of anyone or other living thing...
Sorry but IMO that's drivel, an utterly ridiculous and somewhat insulting generalisation. If that's your mentality then fine, but trying to assert your mentality as that of others is retarded.

When I make love with my girlfriend I don't "use her as a tool" nor does she use me... and I definitely don't consider her "an object". A marriage license doesn't suddenly give sex a special meaning, and there are a crapload of loveless marriages out there, where sex is just a tool for either partner's pleasure.

Originally posted by AOR
For starters I would. And I am very open to basically everything. Everything that is good that is...

Sex is good.

Originally posted by AOR
You can have it for the pleasure, just not when your not married 😉

What if you marry when you are 40 years old, and want kids? By that time, not only are you still a virgin, at 40 years of age, but you are also too old to have children.

It would be very embarrasing to be a virgin at the age of 40, or older.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Sorry but IMO that's drivel, an utterly ridiculous and somewhat insulting generalisation. If that's your mentality then fine, but trying to assert your mentality as that of others is retarded.

When I make love with my girlfriend I don't "use her as a tool" nor does she use me... and I definitely don't consider her "an object". A marriage license doesn't suddenly give sex a special meaning, and there are a crapload of loveless marriages out there, where sex is just a tool for either partner's pleasure.

You have sex with your girlfriend????????
shocking

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Sorry but IMO that's drivel, utterly ridiculous and somewhat insulting. If that's your mentality then fine, but trying to assert your mentality as that of others is retarded.

When I make love with my girlfriend I don't "use her as a tool" nor does she use me... and I definitely don't consider her "an object". A marriage license doesn't suddenly give sex a special meaning, and there are a crapload of loveless marriages out there, where sex is just a tool for either partner's pleasure.

Do not put words in my mouth, I was not praising sex inside our outside of marriage. I was simply stating, that when you are free of the responsibilities of careing for a loved one, than you simply view it as an effort to quench that passion, and thus is considerd lust. I am not imposing my views, but simply stating my point of view. It's very much like Punker69 was saying. I say, if you love her so much, that you'd like to have sex with her, marry her than....

Originally posted by Makedde
What if you marry when you are 40 years old, and want kids? By that time, not only are you still a virgin, at 40 years of age, but you are also too old to have children.

It would be very embarrasing to be a virgin at the age of 40, or older.

If you would wait to be 40 years old, than that means you trust in God, in which case you could be 100 years old and God could deliver you a child. Because God can do anything...

Originally posted by debbiejo
You have sex with your girlfriend????????
shocking

OMG and he isn't married? It's a one way ticket to Hell for him, then. 😆

Originally posted by debbiejo
Sex is good.

In which case I don't have a problem with sex, until it is out of marriage, from which case it is not good...

Originally posted by debbiejo
You have sex with your girlfriend????????
shocking
We're both 20 years old... it's not that much of a shocker... I know... we're gonna burn in hell... fear

Originally posted by AOR
If you would wait to be 40 years old, than that means you trust in God, in which case you could be 100 years old and God could deliver you a child. Because God can do anything...

God can't make a 100 year old woman pregnant. IVF sometimes doesn't even make 40 year old women pregnant.

It's best to be young mother, you don't want to taking the kids to school when your middle aged.

Originally posted by debbiejo
You have sex with your girlfriend????????
shocking
Originally posted by Makedde
OMG and he isn't married? It's a one way ticket to Hell for him, then. 😆

it's so nice to see that there's a little piece of the OTF every where we go 🙄

Originally posted by AOR
In which case I don't have a problem with sex, until it is out of marriage, from which case it is not good...

I am a lesbian, which is sin in God's eyes, and I can't get married. Obviously, this means that I can never share my life with a woman, and have sex with her.

Originally posted by Makedde
God can't make a 100 year old woman pregnant. IVF sometimes doesn't even make 40 year old women pregnant.

It's best to be young mother, you don't want to taking the kids to school when your middle aged.

Yes he can

But it's better to be an older middle aged responsible parent, than a young adolescent still in school parent...

Originally posted by Makedde
I am a lesbian, which is sin in God's eyes, and I can't get married. Obviously, this means that I can never share my life with a woman, and have sex with her.

Hate the sin, love the sinner

I hope you aren't using that as a crutch to have sex outside marriage. I'm not condeming, just asking...

Originally posted by Makedde
I am a lesbian, which is sin in God's eyes, and I can't get married. Obviously, this means that I can never share my life with a woman, and have sex with her.
Then you're goin to hell too with xmark.. 😱 .........me too, cause I lust...LOL

Originally posted by AOR
Hate the sin, love the sinner

I hope you aren't using that as a crutch to have sex outside marriage. I'm not condeming, just asking...

No. I know what the Church feels about sex before marriage, and homosexuality. I am a lesbian, I am not using it as a crutch or anything...

Originally posted by Makedde
No. I know what the Church feels about sex before marriage, and homosexuality. I am a lesbian, I am not using it as a crutch or anything...

And what, if I may ask, is the church's stance on homosexuality....

Originally posted by AOR
Yes he can

Once a woman hits menpause, that's the end for her. No period, no baby. God has never gotten any woman pregnant at the age of 100.

Originally posted by AOR
I say, if you love her so much, that you'd like to have sex with her, marry her than....
I love her, and we have sex. Neither I nor her want or need to get married right now.
Originally posted by AOR
If you would wait to be 40 years old, than that means you trust in God, in which case you could be 100 years old and God could deliver you a child. Because God can do anything...
I'm a biologist. A woman cannot have a child at 100 years old.

Originally posted by AOR
And what, if I may ask, is the church's stance on homosexuality....

According to the Church, it's an abomination.