Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
At close up, predicting his movement would allow her to interfere with bullseye on the process of throwing the projectile. W/o it, he'd have major problem surviving the next hit that might likely be the leopard blow.
... because Shiva always bust out the Leopard blow
Originally posted by Black Adam
interfere in what? All shiva would see is Bullseye throwing a penny at the side of a gas can not even in her direction?
interfere with bullseye on the process of throwing the projectile.
Is there something unclear with this? "All shiva would....."
*Body movement* Why would you think she would just go into defensive and anticipate the projectile while her proximity is enough for her to just force his hands into dropping the projectile or kick it.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Bullseye would beat Shiva even if by some miricle she managed to get in close enough to engage him in melee. Did you guys not see Bullseyes last appearance? The guy his a montser he was holding his own against Elektra (who is a match for Shiva even with out her low level telepathy and ninja mind tricks) and Daredevil at the same time. The guy was falling tens of stories, crashing threw roofs and still going. He is a monter and he has the h2h skills to go along with it.But it wont matter because if there is any distance between them Bullseye picks her off with range.
That fight was crazy. After all the crap and fighting they did through out the issue and all the punishment Bullseye took
He was only put down after being hit by a speeding bus for the second time in a row. even then it only knocked him out a little.
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Nope, because the rule here is that they fight on their optimal performance. If common knowledge indicates Bullseye is that much of a threat, then yes, she would try to finish it quickly.
Yes but CIS and things of that nature are still turned on and characters still fight in character. Shiva wont be throwing leopard blows left right and center the same way Cyclops wouldn't just take off his visor and blast the crap out his enemy, its out of character. If the fight lastest along time and Shiva deamed Bullseye worthy she might try it as a finisher.
Originally posted by Black Adam
That fight was crazy. After all the crap and fighting they did through out the issue and all the punishment Bullseye took
He was only put down after being hit by a speeding bus for the second time in a row. even then it only knocked him out a little.
I know! They guys his a montser. Fighting Elektra and DD at the same time is like fight Batman (if he had no gatgets and was as fast and agile as Nightwing) and Shiva (if she had lowlevel telepathy and ninja mindtricks) at the same time. Once again Bullseye is a montser!
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Yes but CIS and things of that nature are still turned on and characters still fight in character. Shiva wont be throwing leopard blows left right and center the same way Cyclops wouldn't just take off his visor and blast the crap out his enemy, its out of character. If the fight lastest along time and Shiva deamed Bullseye worthy she might try it as a finisher.
CIS is only truely effective here if their normal portrayals doesn't indicate they actually would in battle under the same stipulations. It's kinda like Superman not willing to kill anyone even if he's uber angry as denoted in comics(unless of course it's from the recent fight with WW) However since Shiva's doesn't indicate she isn't willing to do so if Opponent does pose that kind of a danger to her, CIS(of delaying her trump card) shouldn't work for her here.
It's practically the situation for Richard Dragon once in a fight with her, not wanting to hit shiva with it. Only when he realized later on and acknowledges the situation, then he wouldn't hesistate. Difference is, Shiva already knows how dangerous an opponent Bullseye can be..
Note: i would say the same for Cyclops if the opponent really does indeed is going out for the kill and he knows so.
In Marvel vs DC, Bullseye finds himself in the batcave, and holds Robin captive.
Bullseye throws a sharp weapon at Batman, who much to Bullseye's amazement, dodges the weapon and clobbers Bullseye.
The soon to be unconscious Bullseye says to Batman, "You hit harder that Daredevil".
The point... though Bullseye's aim is his greatest strength, he does miss from time to time, depending on the person he is fighting.
Batman has stated in "A Death in the Family" that Lady Shiva is his equal, if not better than him in the martial arts and skills. Bullseye is a great fighter, but he is no Batman in the fight department, let alone Shiva.
I am a Bullseye fan, but Lady Shiva, I feel, would take this fight.
Originally posted by xkalybr
In Marvel vs DC, Bullseye finds himself in the batcave, and holds Robin captive.Bullseye throws a sharp weapon at Batman, who much to Bullseye's amazement, dodges the weapon and clobbers Bullseye.
The soon to be unconscious Bullseye says to Batman, "You hit harder that Daredevil".
The point... though Bullseye's aim is his greatest strength, he does miss from time to time, depending on the person he is fighting.
Batman has stated in "A Death in the Family" that Lady Shiva is his equal, if not better than him in the martial arts and skills. Bullseye is a great fighter, but he is no Batman in the fight department, let alone Shiva.
I am a Bullseye fan, but Lady Shiva, I feel, would take this fight.
When has Bullseye ever missed a normal human that doesn't have extra senses? i really don't know since all I have are his most recent appearances.
While fighting Deadpool Bullseye threw some stuff Deadpool used his telport belt to dodge out of the way then made a remark about Bullsye missing. Except the projectile bounced off of the wall and hit him in the back of the head.
Bullseye don't miss. Like I said unless Shiva starts out 30 feet or closer and instantly springs towards him he is litterally going ot turn her into swis cheese.
Originally posted by Dizzle
Shiva. If you can match Batgirl in fighting skills, you can beat the crap out of Bullseye. It just kind of goes with the territory. I'd say she puts her fist through his head, but he has a skeleton that prevents fun, gory, instant kill moves. And that makes me sad. 🙁
Did you read Batgirl #69...i think Batgirl was matching Shiva... they both improved alot but Shiva was seen slightly better
And yes there is no need to explain....Lady Shiva Woosan.
Originally posted by joesha28
His skill is good...somewhere Elektra level....But Shiva is the best in DCU...while Daredevil is not in his whom Bullseye keep getting creamed to.
Bullseye isnt Elektra level. Hes a notch or two below DD imo. It has been debated that Shiva is the beast in the DCU. DD is also one of the top in Marvel, so Bullseye losing to him is nothing for him to hang his head about.
Originally posted by joesha28
No...he did beat Elektra....but was beaten by DD...DD hands Bully's ass everytime they meet. DD is even not the cream of marvel h2h (which consist Shang Chi, Iron Fist, Cat, Midnight.)
Bullseye has beaten DD before. DD might not be cream of the crop in all MA's, but hes one of the most rounded fighters. Plus the senses help. Hed beat Shang-Chi, Iron Fist and the others imo.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Bullseye isnt Elektra level. Hes a notch or two below DD imo. It has been debated that Shiva is the beast in the DCU. DD is also one of the top in Marvel, so Bullseye losing to him is nothing for him to hang his head about.
One of the top but not the top. You shld know by now that i place DD's h2h skill abv Black Panther and Captain America.
Originally posted by joesha28
One of the top but not the top. You shld know by now that i place DD's h2h skill abv Black Panther and Captain America.
I dont quite get that joesha.
You put DD's h2h skills above BP and Cap, when Cap is said to be the best h2h fighter in Marvel. Yet you say DD isnt the top in Marvel? In your opinion, who is the top h2h combatant in Marvel?