RUNE KING THOR vs DORMAMMU

Originally posted by Mider
and you think that thor stopping time is right? Since when is one earth skyfather who cant even hurt the celestials suppose to have power over all time that he can snap his fingers and reverse it he isnt even essential to the universe, and magic is the bipassing of natural laws its very hard but none the less possible to mess with the LT even if your just dr strange the LT isnt the spectre who is both cosmic and magic, he even fended LT off a little bit when they first met, strange did what he did with death cause he had to use major spells using alot of power of the vishanti, and when it came to dormammu i dont know what to tell you there are rules or something when they fight, none the less dormammu did fight eternity for a while thor shouldnt be able to do that even in thanos the end the skyfathers where like ants to the cosmics they asked the cosmics for help.

Ok, but when Thor will reverse, stop time, it won't have any affect on high cosmic beings, he can't defie them.

Originally posted by Mider
you obviously dont know stranges feats then, with prep he'd beat king thor, and dormammu was once gonna change the entire face of the world wasnt he? how is he not a near cosmic threat if he fought eternity? He doesnt get stronger if he's in his own dimension so there is no point in bringing up that defense.

Dr. Strange on his own will loose terribly against Rune King Thor, terribly.

About Dormammu vs. Rune King Thor, I don't know, I know that RKT cannot challenge Eternity, not even close.
So, about higher power level, Dormammu should be higher, since he went toe to toe against Eternity, something RKT shouldn't be able close to do.

In what comic did Dormamu take on Eternity?

dr starnge has repeatedly beaten dormammu.

I dont think taking on eternity is grounds for a automatic win. Thiers all kinds of characters who could take him on and lose just like Dormammu did. It was impressive but then again"regular" Thor has taken on the celestials and galactus and held his own for a while. In fact he made galactus run and broke a celestials armor. So if classic Thor can do that what could a Thor a hundred times(or more) powerful do??

Arent the Gods of the Asgardian Gods celestial level.

no there not, havent you seen the comic where all the gods put there power in the destroyer and lost badly, and regular thor going up against celestials or galactus is pur PIS galactus is above the celestials and not even all the gods when they put there power together hurt even one celestial.

And Dormammu going against eternity isnt pure PIS?? No difference its comics, thats just the way it is. We may not like it or agree with it but these things happen in comics. We do not know the power of the gods of the asgardians(The ones who set above), they made one appearence and thier not the ones that animated the destroyer armor, Odin did.

Originally posted by Mider
no there not, havent you seen the comic where all the gods put there power in the destroyer and lost badly, and regular thor going up against celestials or galactus is pur PIS galactus is above the celestials and not even all the gods when they put there power together hurt even one celestial.

there is some indication that dormmy is on par with odin (they played chess and were seen as equals on opposite sides). is rkt above skyfather? if so, without prep, i'd say he would be above dormmy as well.

Well most people consider him more powerful than Odin since he stopped the cycle of ragnarok, something Odin couldent do. Honestly its kinda hard to say IMO. For the most part he is considered more powerful because of the Odinforce and Rune magic.

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Well most people consider him more powerful than Odin since he stopped the cycle of ragnarok, something Odin couldent do. Honestly its kinda hard to say IMO. For the most part he is considered more powerful because of the Odinforce and Rune magic.

Rune King Thor, and King Thor are more powerful than Odin. When Thor killed Desak In The Mighty Thor v2 #50, Loki stated that not even Odin could have accomplished that feat. This implies that Thor is in fact more powerful than Odin.

Originally posted by Mider
you obviously dont know stranges feats then, with prep he'd beat king thor, and dormammu was once gonna change the entire face of the world wasnt he? how is he not a near cosmic threat if he fought eternity? He doesnt get stronger if he's in his own dimension so there is no point in bringing up that defense.

You just don't get that when Dr.Strange had prep he failed to defeat King Thor. King Thor without prep and without the odinforce, killed Hulk, Thing, Wolverine, Captain America, Vision. Dr.Strange was killed by Loki, who's powers are far less that Thor's.

Originally posted by Mider
and you think that thor stopping time is right? Since when is one earth skyfather who cant even hurt the celestials suppose to have power over all time that he can snap his fingers and reverse it he isnt even essential to the universe, and magic is the bipassing of natural laws...

Actually "stopping" time isn't as far-fetched as one would image, even going by real world physics. In short, according to Einstein there is no constant or preferred frame of reference from which "time" can be measured or observed in the universe. Thus what we experience as time is relative to the speed at which we are traveling. The reason this seems counter intuitive is that the discrepancies that this produces are minuscule until you reach a substantial fraction of the speed of light. For every day purposes time is constant throughout our world, but again this is technically incorrect.

A practical example would be the following: Take two individuals who each have a clock and leave one on the planet earth and have the other enter a rocked ship that can accelerate to a significant fraction of the speed of light. Now assume that the two are able to somehow observe the clock that the other has, what would they see? Einstein says that when the person on the rocket ship looks at the clock on Earth he would see the hands flying around the fact at a remarkable speed, while the person on Earth would see the clock on the rocket ship barely moving. Both of these observations of time would be "correct."

All Thor would have to do is simply alter the reference frame from which he is viewing the earth to effectively stop time (at least from his point of view). Or it could just be magic.

but typically when time is 'frozen' it appears frozen in all frames of reference.

so, yeah -- i'm guessing it's prooly the magic . . . 😄

Originally posted by leonidas
but typically when time is 'frozen' it appears frozen in all frames of reference.

so, yeah -- i'm guessing it's prooly the magic . . . 😄

Not necessarily. Typically, the observer seems to experience "normal" time and we don't get to necessarily see if the slowing down of time is a universe wide phenomena.

Meh...it probably is the magic velho

well . . . if it was frozen for the person doing the freezing, it wouldn't be much good, would it . . .? 🙁

Originally posted by leonidas
well . . . if it was frozen for the person doing the freezing, it wouldn't be much good, would it . . .? 🙁

Unless that person is Iceman...😖hifty:

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Originally posted by leonidas
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