Originally posted by leonidas
from what i've seen, respect threads more often than not are made by biased fanboys who post half-scans and out-of-context-material in order to make their character/s seem greater than they are. perhaps not the best strategy when that little fact is considered . . .regardless, you still have my vote this time.
except the alpha flight respect thread is actually a good respect thread, there is the flaw in your explanation.
Originally posted by leonidas
from what i've seen, respect threads more often than not are made by biased fanboys who post half-scans and out-of-context-material in order to make their character/s seem greater than they are. perhaps not the best strategy when that little fact is considered . . .regardless, you still have my vote this time.
Except I post entire issues and entire pages of what the feats actually imply. Seriously check it out, none of my scans are out of context or fabricated.
Originally posted by stormfront13
except the alpha flight respect thread is actually a good respect thread, there is the flaw in your explanation.
Thank you, no one mentions it since it's members are not the most popular.
Originally posted by stormfront13
i was the smart one to pick characters that had respect threads.
...actually a good strategy to have from the onset. For this reason alone, I seriously would've considered Spider-Man for a 4th rounder or something if I was in this tourney (well that, and I'm already used to defending him with my life...hehe). Scans can do a lot, and good respect threads are awesome for those.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
...actually a good strategy to have from the onset. For this reason alone, I seriously would've considered Spider-Man for a 4th rounder or something if I was in this tourney (well that, and I'm already used to defending him with my life...hehe). Scans can do a lot, and good respect threads are awesome for those.
and because of you i do respect spider-man a lot more...see, respect threads are great 😄
Originally posted by leonidas
from what i've seen, respect threads more often than not are made by biased fanboys who post half-scans and out-of-context-material in order to make their character/s seem greater than they are. perhaps not the best strategy when that little fact is considered . . .
regardless, you still have my vote this time.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Except I post entire issues and entire pages of what the feats actually imply. Seriously check it out, none of my scans are out of context or fabricated.
Co-signed.
I have to look through every respect thread to grade them for the Directory, and while I'm not always 100% thorough, the threads range from fanboy-fests with out of context scans, to reallly good threads that admit the strengths AND shortcomings of their character. I try to do both, and actually have a fight or two that Spidey loses convincingly. Mungi's is also very honest....as are many others.
Originally posted by DigiMark007I think it has to be used in conjunction with 'hard'... 'wicked hard' just sounds better...
'Wicked' kicks ass, by the way...though where I'm from I just get made fun of for using it.
Anyway I have to vote for stormfront, despite dubious credibility and oft-unintelligible verbal incoherence, because of Phantazia's instant shutdown abilities on mechanical based combatants, which is apparently allowed, even though it effectively amounts to OHKO. Also in her bio it says she can paralyse people with her powers, so ScarletSpider was relatively disadvantaged from the start.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
I have to look through every respect thread to grade them for the Directory, and while I'm not always 100% thorough, the threads range from fanboy-fests with out of context scans, to reallly good threads that admit the strengths AND shortcomings of their character. I try to do both, and actually have a fight or two that Spidey loses convincingly. Mungi's is also very honest....as are many others.
coughBATMANcough... Sure, it's filled with fanboy propaganda, but everyone's a Batman fanboy. Especially the people who write him.
And I really don't know why everyone was pissed off at Mungi, honestly... Considering the sheer volume of anti-stormfront comments in this thread, I'd say he's being very fair. And I respect him for his comics knowledge... But hate him bitterly for being so damn Canadian.
And no one really seemed to have much of a problem with Phantazia. I WAS considering banning her for having very Aquarianish powers against anyone with a suit, rather than actual superpowers, but there was no real public outcry. SS got unlucky, but I'm pretty sure he has the most mechanically based team in the tourney. She's pushing the limit as is, if anything else comes about involving her... She's probly gone. Just a warning, SF.
Oh, and as my brother goes to college in Boston... 😂 at "Wicked hard".
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Mungi's is also very honest....as are many others.
Originally posted by Dizzle
And I really don't know why everyone was pissed off at Mungi, honestly... Considering the sheer volume of anti-stormfront comments in this thread, I'd say he's being very fair. And I respect him for his comics knowledge... But hate him bitterly for being so damn Canadian.
Thanks you two I appreicate that.
Dizzle your just jealous Canada is north of you 😛
i never said mungi fed him plans. it is clear that mungi knew the characters better than sf did though. and the fact that by your own admission it WAS beneficial to sf implies that he had an advantage in the fight ss never had.
and sf, far from a flaw, you will notice too that i said more often than not respect threads are full of bullcrap. darkseid's is one example. some great stuff, some ridiculously misinterpretted stuff. dizzle mentioned bats. maybe yours is good. i have enough issues of alpha that i don't need to check it out. besides, it doesn't change the point that basing characters on a respect thread rather than choosing characters you know well and can personally suport may not be the best idea.
didn't mean to open such a can of worms dizzle. my apologies.
Originally posted by leonidas
i wasn't trying to attack you personally, though as i said i think your continued input -- whether you intended it or not -- WAS beneficial to SF. i don't see any 'experts' pointing things out to SS is all, and that doesn't seem wholly fair to me. nor do i WANT to see that. NOR am i saying you are biased or showing favoritism. i told you, i've seen the same thing happen in other fights (yes scoob, i'm talking to you! 😛 ) where sometimes outsiders get into it and wittingly or unwittingly help or hinder opponents in a match -- though in scoobs case he's usually angling for a way to cover his own arse for a later match! 😂
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Originally posted by leonidas
i never said mungi fed him plans. it is clear that mungi knew the characters better than sf did though. and the fact that by your own admission it WAS beneficial to sf implies that he had an advantage in the fight ss never had.
Whirly did and yes it was benefical, does it matter? since well you can say the multiple member bashing of SF was benefical to SC.
Originally posted by Dizzle
And no one really seemed to have much of a problem with Phantazia. I WAS considering banning her for having very Aquarianish powers against anyone with a suit, rather than actual superpowers, but there was no real public outcry. SS got unlucky, but I'm pretty sure he has the most mechanically based team in the tourney. She's pushing the limit as is, if anything else comes about involving her... She's probly gone. Just a warning, SF.
why is phantazia so close to being banned? she is within thr eules, and there was never any rule against shutting down electronics, and it would only really work against people who have electronics.
because of Phantazia's instant shutdown abilities on mechanical based combatants, which is apparently allowed, even though it effectively amounts to OHKO. Also in her bio it says she can paralyse people with her powers, so ScarletSpider was relatively disadvantaged from the start.
there was never any rule against shutting down mechanical based characters, and it wouldn't work on anyone. and paralyzing characters is apparnetlly allowed, roughrider has a character that can paralyze with a stare and he was allowed because it isn't an ohko, it only paralyzes someone and doesn't kill them.
Whirly did and yes it was benefical, does it matter? since well you can say the multiple member bashing of SF was benefical to SC.
yes, but anyone could have chosen an alpha flight character because it had such a great respect thread, and it would have been fine. and yeah, mungi is right, the arguing against me was enough to even the playing field. i got more of a fight from people like xmarks, and scoob.
Originally posted by stormfront13
why is phantazia so close to being banned? she is within thr eules, and there was never any rule against shutting down electronics, and it would only really work against people who have electronics.there was never any rule against shutting down mechanical based characters, and it wouldn't work on anyone. and paralyzing characters is apparnetlly allowed, roughrider has a character that can paralyze with a stare and he was allowed because it isn't an ohko, it only paralyzes someone and doesn't kill them.
There wasn't a specific rule, but Aquarian WAS banned, for doing the same thing, but against everyone, as opposed to just mechanical people. His powers basically let him turn superheroes into normal humans, and then whack and kill them with class 15 strength. Phantazia takes anyone with a suit, turns them into a normal human, (by taking away the suit) and blasts them to death. Within just that group, there's no real difference. However, anyone who just has powers instead of a suit isn't really hindered by her that much. Therefore, she lives. I'm just saying that if anything else comes up with her, she's probly gone.
yes, but anyone could have chosen an alpha flight character because it had such a great respect thread, and it would have been fine. and yeah, mungi is right, the arguing against me was enough to even the playing field. i got more of a fight from people like xmarks, and scoob.
... Basically. The argument was about the fact that if anyone tried to argue falsely aginst Aurora, Mungi would correct them if it was wrong. Machine Man and Booster Gold might both be uber resistant to shutdown type attacks (I know IM is actually immune to EMPs and such...) but SS doesn't have anyone to point that out (if its true) when it becomes the most important part of your strategy. So he wasn't helping you specifically, but his corrections benefitted you a lot more than they did SS.
Is it fair? Probably not completely, but there was a lot of SF bashing going on anyway. From now on, everyone just stick to answering and asking specific questions. Don't correct people, even if they're wrong, unless it's something really huge. Shitstorms stink terribly.
and he was right to chime in about that. i've said it many times -- i think the debate ought to be left completely to the opponents but if they use their characters falsely, or claim they have done something when they haven't, that SHOULD be challenged. on-lookers have the right to demand proof, the burden of proving things should fall on the competitor is all i'm saying, and if they can't prove it . . . tough for them, let the voters make of that what they will.
and i don't think anyone was really bashing sf -- he's still gonna win this, i think. some of his characters have been apparently called into question, as have a couple of his feats. it's not bashing to ask for proof of claims or to point out illegitimate claims. not everyone has time to research what has been claimed in these fights. the issue of illegal characters should be moot by this point as they have already been picked and i trust dizzle to fairly judge any issues that arise, and i think he has done so WITHOUT bashing stormfront.
Originally posted by Captain Kirk
So this Stormfront guy lied and cheated? Why is he allowed to win? That's surely wong, isn't it?
Well, if you had been here for the last tourney... 😂 Crazy jinzin.
And yeah, he posted one big BS feat that didn't affect his argument all that much. I doubt he even thought he was lying. His biggest transgression was the total disregard for Mr. Period and his best friend, Badass Comma. The win was pretty fair and square.