umm Keeper got defeated by Galactus and i think your thinking Terrax not Tyrant, Tyrant indeed was the one who was almost equal to Galactus the fallen one chased him off but he was a weak galactus i think anyway if Tyrant was in this fight RKT would lose it be like fighting Galactus almost if there is no prep time then thanos would lose too i dont think he can take allt he heralds especially not morg with the waters of life
Heralds win. But most of their ranks would be decimated. Probably only 3-4 would survive. Thanos alone have smacked sense into most heralds notably terrax, the fallen one, silver surfer, nova and firelord. With teamwork thouh, they might come out on top but RKThor would certainly kill plenty of them.
Originally posted by The IonExactly Surfer is supposeed to be one of Galactus most powerful heralds, but he was dropped by odin in One blast, Rune King Thor is superior to Odin, meaning that They should take this, and since Thanos has gotten his Latest Upgrade he should be more than Accountable to take this also, heralds are drastly overrated.
Looking at how easily Odin dropped Surfer, I'm gonna bet on Thor. Thanos is irrevelant to this. Surfer is the only one who'd last any amount of time but Keeper with the Uni-Power is too hard to gauge. The Uni-power itself is inconsistent and we don't really know what level The Keeper was anyway.
RKT and Thanos
Distinguish herald destroyer from celestial-defense destroyer. They're not the same power level.
THe problem for the herald team is numbers don't mean much when you can't do any damage.
Odin has faced herald blasts unharmed; concededly, this is usually in asgard, but balance that out with the fact that RKT is supposedly more powerful and durable.
Thanos brushes off surfer's cosmic blasts as if they were a gentle breeze, and beats him to the ground in a few blows. And he took fallen one's nova attack completely unharmed, then literally made him his thrall via mind control. He's beaten many other heralds or herald teams in similarly dominant fashion. (Compare, for example, WOL Morg fighting heralds; powerful, but not dominant or invulnerable)
Add up a whole lot of zeros, and the sum is still zero. Couldn't thanos, for example, brush off a dozen, or even a hundred, of surfer's blasts unharmed? It certainly looks like it, in their 1on1 fights.
Unless the heralds can combine their energy and amp it up in a single attack, it's not clear to me that they can hurt either of these guys. Both of whom have galactic-destruction level durability.
On the other hand, it's pretty clear both RKT and Thanos can take down any one of these heralds in a few blows at most....
Except for the fact that The Keeper, The Kryptonian, Morg with WOL, Uni Force Surfer The Asgardian Destroyer, Doom Surfer, and many others are as strong as or stronger then Thanos and RKT, and with Doom Surfer on the heralds side they could possibly devise a way to channel all their power into one herald or amp their power.
Hehe, and not to forget Carnage Surfer for fun.
Originally posted by King KAM
Exactly Surfer is supposeed to be one of Galactus most powerful heralds, but he was dropped by odin in One blast, Rune King Thor is superior to Odin, meaning that They should take this, and since Thanos has gotten his Latest Upgrade he should be more than Accountable to take this also, heralds are drastly overrated.RKT and Thanos
Heralds are not overrated. If anything, they are underrated. Look at all the people saying superman can take the silver surfer, for example.
The problem is heralds fight vastly powerful enemies, and these enemeis (like thanos) are VASTLY underrated. A loss to thanos, even in pathetic fashion, is nothing to be ashamed of. Similarly, getting one-shotted by odin in asgard with gungir is not exactly a low feat. This is a guy who actually has teh gumption to fight celestials, and you're fighting him in the source of his power.
Originally posted by King KAM
Exactly Surfer is supposeed to be one of Galactus most powerful heralds, but he was dropped by odin in One blast, Rune King Thor is superior to Odin, meaning that They should take this, and since Thanos has gotten his Latest Upgrade he should be more than Accountable to take this also, heralds are drastly overrated.RKT and Thanos
Surfer is arguably Galactus most powerful Herald, Surfer at his most powerful thus far has either been when he was The Keeper (was only for two comics, ending with Surfer leading Galactus to devour his next meal), or possibly when he had the Uni Power which multiplies the users power by fifty fold (Surfer didnt show much when he was in this state, to gauge him accurately would perhaps need to see more, but he was for sure much more powerful). When SS was knocked down by Odin, that was when SS was in Odin's own realm at the source of his power, and when SS was not in his most powerful form.
Take Odin and put him against The Keeper in the middle of the Multiverse, and see how he fares then. The Keeper has the Quantum bands, which are a unlimited infinite suply of energy, The Keeper was trained by the watcher Aaron in how to use them (The Watchers are far above Skyfather, Odin, RKT, Thanos level)
Originally posted by slade10Your right, Losing to Thanos or Odin is nothing to be ashamed of, but they did lose and they WILL lose this fight
Heralds are not overrated. If anything, they are underrated. Look at all the people saying superman can take the silver surfer, for example.The problem is heralds fight vastly powerful enemies, and these enemeis (like thanos) are VASTLY underrated. A loss to thanos, even in pathetic fashion, is nothing to be ashamed of. Similarly, getting one-shotted by odin in asgard with gungir is not exactly a low feat. This is a guy who actually has teh gumption to fight celestials, and you're fighting him in the source of his power.
Originally posted by Jesse7This is RKT FAR more powerful than odin, and Thanos, who is high -skyfather level was too much for The Forgotten One and The Silver Surfer, and he wil be too much for these sissys.
Surfer is arguably Galactus most powerful Herald, Surfer at his most powerful thus far has either been when he was The Keeper (was only for two comics then was left without an ending), or possibly when he had the Uni Power which multiplies the users power by fifty fold (Surfer didnt show much when he was in this state, to gauge him accurately would perhaps need to see more, but he was for sure much more powerful). When SS was knocked down by Odin, that was when SS was in Odin's own realm at the source of his power, and when SS was not in his most powerful form.Take Odin and put him against The Keeper in the middle of the Multiverse, and see how he fares then. The Keeper has the Quantum bands, which are a unlimited infinite suply of energy, The Keeper was trained by the watcher Aaron in how to use them (The Watchers are far above Skyfather, Odin, RKT, Thanos level)
Are you listening to anything I have said? The Keeper is arguably equal to Galactus, Uni Power Surfer is arguably equal or stronger then RKT. Morg with WOL is a actual threat, Doom Surfer is a serious threat too; With dooms intelect and the power cosmic he poses a very serious threat. And keep in mind they are all working together. The Kryptonian (who is super man empowered with the power cosmic) also could pose a very serious chalenge.
Are you even acknowledging the list of heralds that was posted earlier? with comic number references for some of them and a brief description for some.
Originally posted by Jesse7
Except for the fact that The Keeper, The Kryptonian, Morg with WOL, Uni Force Surfer The Asgardian Destroyer, Doom Surfer, and many others are as strong as or stronger then Thanos and RKT, and with Doom Surfer on the heralds side they could possibly devise a way to channel all their power into one herald or amp their power.
Morg with power cosmic and WOL was doing well against a group of heralds. But he was still being hurt by them, I believe. And dropped down to just WOL he lost terribly.
Keeper has unknown powers. Adding quantum bands to power cosmic does not seem too significant, though, given that the power cosmic is vastly more powerful. He did ok against an explicitly weakened galactus. But then again, many have. It's all a matter of how "weak" galactus actually is, which is unknown.
Asgardian Destroyer, again, is unknown. There's no reason to think it was more powerful than a normal herald, however. It grew in size and power later on, when it was animated by the entire power of asgard and other gods.
In any event, if you think keeper is as powerful as galactus, or herald destroyer is as powerful as celestial destroyer, obviously the team wins. I don't think those are valid conclusions, though, and the basic tools of a herald have been shown incapable of even HURTING beings in RKT/THanos' league.
concede, however, that if they could figure out how to combine attacks into one blow, or amp up one herald, then perhaps they can win. they certainly ahve the intellect to figure out how to do that, if it's possible.
Originally posted by slade10I dont even need to say it, you have said it all, like usual you are correct.
Morg with power cosmic and WOL was doing well against a group of heralds. But he was still being hurt by them. And dropped down to just WOL he lost terribly.Keeper has unknown powers. Adding quantum bands to power cosmic does not seem too significant, though, given that the power cosmic is vastly more powerful. He did ok against an explicitly weakened galactus. But then again, many have. It's all a matter of how "weak" galactus actually is, which is unknown.
Asgardian Destroyer, again, is unknown. There's no reason to think it was more powerful than a normal herald, however. It grew in size and power later on, when it was animated by the entire power of asgard and other gods.
In any event, if you think keeper is as powerful as galactus, or herald destroyer is as powerful as celestial destroyer, obviously the team wins. I don't think those are valid conclusions, though, and the basic tools of a herald have been shown incapable of even HURTING beings in RKT/THanos' league.
I dont think you understand how powerfull RKT is. Look at him one shotting the Asgardian Destroyer with Desaak the godslayer powering it. Hes probably the second most powerful guy on your list. Half the guys on the list arent strong enough to hurt Thanos.The rest can barely hurt RKT. Unless they somehow fuse there powers to form a super cosmic magazord or something there just an army of ants.
LOL, but with Doom Surfer they could possibly do that....
With the one week prep time, doom finds a way to channel all of their power, hopes, dreams, determination and knowledge into the The Keeper, forming.............The Cosmic Hero! Who then proceeds to defeat RKT and absorb all of his power, magic, runes and knowledge, then TCH moves onto to defeat Thanos and absorb all of his power and knowledge...TCH then fly's off into space to stop evil wherever it may be.