Not even a nomination for VFX. While a slapdash, rushed effort like WOTW gets in. The Academy sure loves Spielberg more than Lucas. John Williams did brilliant work on Sith - but his work in Munich, with hardly any music, gets nominated.
Goddamn them all.
At least Lucas showed up all the naysayers and made a great film out of Sith, and is laughing all the way to the bank, unlike many other megabudget American films last year.
Yes, I consider WOTW a rushed effort.
Spielberg is perhaps the best director out there for filming a big-budget FX-laden film quickly, completing it faster than anyone else could. Several times in his career, he has two films out in the same year. And they're not simple drawing room comedies like Woody Allen. But it wasn't enough this time. Waiting to get Munich off the ground, he and Cruise suddenly found a narrow window in their schedules to do WOTW - but the film looked to me like it needed more work, especially the script.
ORIGINAL SCORE - for your info, John Williams won for ANH, and was nominated for TESB and ROTJ. Also, Howard Shore recently won Oscars for two of the three LOTR films; Fellowship and Return of the King. The word 'Original' is not a limitation for continuing sequels. It's just a word. There is no Oscar for 'Adapted' Score. For a while in the nineties, they use to have an Oscar for Best Comedy Score, for comedic rather than dramatic films, but that's gone away.
Problem here is they only allow three nominations for VFX. They use to allow five, going back to the late 1980's. And there is SO much CG work done in films now, so many more FX laden films per year, it's time to go back to five.
If we had five, ROTS would surely be there. Academy couldn't be that obtuse. ( Or maybe they are...)
For your info... (from http://www.oscars.org/77academyawards/rules/rule16.html):
Rule Sixteen
Special Rules for The Music Awards
A. CATEGORIES
I. Original Score:
An original score is a substantial body of music in the form of dramatic underscoring written specifically for the film by the submitting composer.
Notice how it says "written specifically for the film"? Not "written specifically for the film or taken from previous works". The Academy is not allowed to consider themes or riffs that were not specifically written for Episode III... and there was a lot of music that was taken directly out of the previous films. They are however allowed to consider all the new material which is why Williams received nominations for all three OT films and why Shore did for all two LOTR films. They must have just thought that the new material in ROTS was just not as good as some of the other films out there...
That said, I still think the new material in this film is some of the best film music I've heard in a very long time.
As for WOTW being a rushed job... I'd say absolutely. And if this is the calibre of work Spielberg is able to produce at this speed, I say bring on three films a year Steve!
And I've said my piece on the VFX a countless number of times in this thread: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=4192987#post4192987
Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
Yes, I thought it was FABULOUS. 🙄*cough-f*ckyou-cough*
Since when was the term 'fabulous' only part of the homosexual lexicon?
1. Oh, I'll bet you did! You loved seeing Hayden's body all hot and FLAMMING, didn't you?
2. 😐 Um, no. That was a weak comeback.
3. For quite a while now. Its 2006; get with it.
The AP/Washington Post Blog chimes in on the Sith Snub:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/02/AR2006020200654.html
Specifially:
"The movie was one long visual effect, with Ewan McGregor, Hayden Christensen and a few other odd humans tossed in now and then to avoid getting classified as an animated film.
OK, so some of Lucas' creatures look cartoonish. But as visual spectacles go, it was the supreme achievement of a sci-fi franchise that pretty much sired the modern special-effects business.
As for the three nominees, two of which include effects by Lucas' homegrown outfit Industrial Light & Magic, I got mighty sick of all the talking animals by the end of "Narnia," which also had some cheesy fake panoramas, "King Kong" had a few moments of utterly phony-looking action and "War of the Worlds" looked like it just wasn't all quite there."
Haven't seen Narnia so can't comment... Kong had many phony-looking moments, but Kong himself cannot be overlooked (Best. Visual effect. Ever.). Some shots in WOTW were not quite perfect but these a few and far between. The fact of the matter is that I believed in the worlds of Kong and WOTW much more than I did ROTS. And the fact that Lucas has given so much to the world of VFX and advanced the field so much doesn't matter... it's what's on screen that counts.
Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
1. Yes. I thought I established that already.2. No shit.
3. Well, I don't own a copy of the Gay Man's Dictionary, but I'm sure you're well versed, so I'll take your word for that...
"Gay Man's Dictionary"<-----That was actually a good one. 😆 👆 I give you props for that one.
It don't take no pop-culutre expert to know that one. Thats such a basic gay word that everyone knows about; you dont have to live in the Amazon to not know that. My bad dawg, but I saw that some foo' said "fabulous", and I just had to have some fun. (especially when you said it in refference to makeup). There's nothing wrong with saying "fabulous"............if you're a 70-year-old woman (which I'm assuming you're not). I really hope you don't say that gay shit when you be at a bar wit' da fellaz.
Originally posted by DiamondBullets😂 Yes. I guess I did deserve it in that respect...
especially when you said it in refference to makeup
Originally posted by tlbauerleYou know, I think he already has... I know he got the AFI Lifetime Achievement Award last year, but I think he's also been given one from the Academy as well... maybe not a lifetime achievement one, but something. If I'm wrong I think he definitely deserves one... especially after all he's contributed to the VFX industry and filmmaking industry in general with the development of digital filmmaking etc.
Actually...I'll again mention that Lucas is deserving of a lifetime achievement award. I think that would be great to see.