Guillermo del Toro Film Discussion Thread

IMO this guy is quite the Director. Is anyone Else familiar with Del Toro's Workings? He Directed and co-wrote Hellboy. Which IMO is an excellent Film, although other may disagree. It is in Talks that He is scheduled to Direct The Upcoming 'Halo' Project. Personally, I think He is an Ideal choice. Although there are others who could do just as good, if not better. I'm also looking very much forward to Hellboy: The Golden Army. Anyone else seen some of his other films such as Blade II, or The Devil's Backbone?

Let the Discussion begin.

I don't see anything outstanding in what he's done, personally. Blade 2, he managed to make Blade a pansy-ass, even more so, if that's what he was given to work with. "The Devil's Backbone" is a little creepy, as was "Cronos", but nothing spectacular, IMO. "Hellboy" had great characters, but he also had great talent, who probably didn't need much direction. In a comic book movie, you're supposed to ham it up, and that doesn't necessarily "need" direction.

I seem to Recall 'Hellboy' Being in your Favorites.

I thought Hellboy was far better than any of the wave of recent comic book movies (apart from X-2), it's so much more likeable than the Hulk, Spiderman, Fantastic 4 etc school of sucking the life out of popular characters. Didn't take itself too seriously either, which is a massive bonus in that kind of movie.

I didn't know he directed Blade II, but that is easily the best of the trilogy, really easily. Blade was one of the few comic book characters I really liked as a kid, and I feel Del Toro nailed the whole atmosphere.

I'm not too familiar with Halo, but I hugely enjoyed it the few times I've played it, and with his adapted action movie pedigree, I'll certainly be looking out for it.

Originally posted by Deathblow
I thought Hellboy was far better than any of the wave of recent comic book movies (apart from X-2), it's so much more likeable than the Hulk, Spiderman, Fantastic 4 etc school of sucking the life out of popular characters. Didn't take itself too seriously either, which is a massive bonus in that kind of movie.

IMO, Hellboy, X1/2 and Batman Begins are the top 3.

I love Hellboy, and Blade 2 is the only Blade movie that I enjoyed.

So far Mimic and Cronos are the films I liked. Hellboy and Blade 2 were not so bad. I don't know much about him but he has really caught my interested since he and PJ will working on Halo.

btw-is he related to Benicio Del Toro?

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
btw-is he related to Benicio Del Toro?

Take a look at pictures of the two. You'll get your answer. 😉

I would also Like to add, that Hellboy had some of the best Makeup effects I have ever seen.

Urgh I am so looking forwards to his Pans Labyrinth!

I agree with the Blade 2 comments, that was by far my favourite out of the first two, third needs no comment on. Did a great job on Blade II imo, and Donnie Yen was a bonus 🙂

Hellboy I enjoyed a lot also, fun fun movie. Have not read the comics myself, but I heard it was very well adapted. I am looking forwards to the next one.

The Devil's Backbone was rather good, had a lovely atmosphere, same for Cronos.

Mimic I'm not too keen on, has some good moments and a fab score by Beltrami, but not one I enjoyed a lot.

Haven't seen any of his stuff before Cronos.

Originally posted by MildPossession
Hellboy I enjoyed a lot also, fun fun movie. Have not read the comics myself, but I heard it was very well adapted.

I'm a reader myself. It was a good Adapting job IMO. Liz's Character was changed a tad though. She seems a lot darker in the Film. But aside from that, it was good. 👆

Originally posted by DarkWizard
IMO, Hellboy, X1/2 and Batman Begins are the top 3.

I'm sure 'The Watchmen' will be somewhere up there when it's time comes.

Hated 'Hellboy'.

Originally posted by DarkWizard
I seem to Recall 'Hellboy' Being in your Favorites.

Never said I didn't like "Hellboy", didn't say anything disaparaging at all, actually.

Originally posted by Deathblow
I thought Hellboy was far better than any of the wave of recent comic book movies (apart from X-2), it's so much more likeable than the Hulk, Spiderman, Fantastic 4 etc school of sucking the life out of popular characters. Didn't take itself too seriously either, which is a massive bonus in that kind of movie.

"Fantastic Four" was as light-hearted as it gets, IMO. I think they're on par with one another, but "F4" edges out "Hellboy" because it flows smoother, has a shorter runtime, and isn't weighed down with characters and backstories.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
So far Mimic and Cronos are the films I liked. Hellboy and Blade 2 were not so bad. I don't know much about him but he has really caught my interested since he and PJ will working on Halo.

btw-is he related to Benicio Del Toro?

"Mimic" was just a silly story to begin with, IMO. Bug people in a subway? Entirely too cheesy, and the talent enlisted was minimal.

Originally posted by Solo
.....'A History Of Violence', 'Sin City', The 'Lone Wolf and Cub' series.

"A History of Violence" was David Cronenbergs biggest failure since "Rabid". He doesn't belong in the mainstream, and that contrived piece of shit with Aragorn proves it, IMO.

As for "Blade 2", at first I championed it because it gave Blade some character development. It softened him up, but IMO, a little too much, especially after having come off some mama drama in the original. The highlight of "Blade 2" was the Damaskinos clan and the Blood Pack, with none other than Ron Perlman, whom del Toro has been throwing bones to for YEARS, including Cronos and later, Hellboy. I still think the original is still the best. Best soundtrack, best characters, best storyline, best dialogue, best acting, best direction, which makes me wonder where the hell David Goyer went wrong in 3.

I really enjoyed Hellboy. I'm getting irritated with the lack of updates on the sequel because I'm really looking forward to it.

I haven't seen any of his other movies.

Of the movies listed here by him, I only enjoyed Mimic but that was a long time ago and my taste in movies has developed more since then. Even Mimic was a 2nd rate "Relic".

Not really seein' the connection between the two...

I think he has a good visual sensibility

Originally posted by Cinemaddiction

"Mimic" was just a silly story to begin with, IMO. Bug people in a subway? Entirely too cheesy, and the talent enlisted was minimal.

I found the story of big bug people living underneath the NY Subway station original. Besides it beats that old urban myth of alligators in the sewers. A master race living beneath our world....interesting fiction...

I still think the original is still the best. Best soundtrack, best characters, best storyline, best dialogue, best acting, best direction, which makes me wonder where the hell David Goyer went wrong in 3.

I prefered the soundtrack to the first also, but the score by Beltrami for Blade II was a lot better compared to the firsts score imo.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
I found the story of big bug people living underneath the NY Subway station original. Besides it beats that old urban myth of alligators in the sewers. A master race living beneath our world....interesting fiction...

Same story different setting, and has been done 100's of times before in Sci Fi. Aliens, The Thing, Leviathan, The Fly. I could go on, but you get the point. Plus, they're far from a "master race". At best, this little colony threatened A city.

Sci Fi is a derivative genre, granted, but you can only be so original, Hence, human/cockroach hybrids. Original, but that's where the ingenuity ends.

Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
Sci Fi is a derivative genre, granted, but you can only be so original, Hence, human/cockroach hybrids. Original, but that's where the ingenuity ends.

Precisely. Thank God for Riddick.