Prove Evolution...win money

Started by Blue nocturne25 pages
Originally posted by Evil Dead
I'm done with you...........you seem to not even know what the definition of mutation is...........further more you ask me to show you proof of what or was not in our gene pool hundreds of millions of years ago when we branched off of the evolutionary tree. That's the stupidest subject to even bring up in regards to mutation.......

I said proof that mutations add new traits to the gene pool, this is what macro evolution advocates. It seems you don't know what a muataion is.

Mutation-A permanent transmissible change in DNA sequence. It can be an insertion or deletion of genetic information, or an alteration in the original genetic information.
www.dphpc.ox.ac.uk/opcgg/glossary.htm

A mutation does not add new traits into the gene pool, unless there is proof.

Originally posted by Evil Dead

Before I converse with you again I'd like to see some direct evidence that you know anything about any subject in any field you post about............so far I've gotten the exact opposite........like you using evolution by natural selection of genetic variation to disprove evolution by natural selection of genetic variation.......not even knowing what a mutation occurs or furthermore even knowing that any one individuals gene pool is comprised soly of the mother's and father's genes..........

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Mutations do not add foreign traits, natural selection does not create new species it may change it but not create a new species, and finally new traits cannot emerge into the gene pool though they can be lost.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
...I'm done with you. stay in school. drugs are bad..........and um......don't get pregnant.

hysterical You crack me up sometimes.

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Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I said proof that mutations add new traits to the gene pool, this is what macro evolution advocates. It seems you don't know what a muataion is.

Mutation-A permanent transmissible change in DNA sequence. It can be an insertion or deletion of genetic information, or an alteration in the original genetic information.
www.dphpc.ox.ac.uk/opcgg/glossary.htm

A mutation does not add new traits into the gene pool, unless there is proof.

Mutations do not add foreign traits, natural selection does not create new species it may change it but not create a new species, and finally new traits cannot emerge into the gene pool though they can be lost.

FFS. You obviously don't understand evolution. Here's an official SCIENTIFIC link that teaches evolution. More than what you can do 😉

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

Originally posted by Captain Falcon
FFS. You obviously don't understand evolution. Here's an official SCIENTIFIC link that teaches evolution. More than what you can do 😉

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

Wikipedia is an official scientific link?
I understand evolution, I simply disagree with it.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
This idiot seems to believe macro and micro evolution are the same, how the combination of pre exsiting traits in the gene pool (Micro evolution) is the same as a theory which believes new traits are added to the gene pool of an organism via mutations( macro evolution); Is up to evolutionist to prove.

Are you Serious, Species are a fact since different species cannot reproduce with each other, it's called genetic homeostasis look it up.

THEY ARE THE SAME YOU STUPID BELL END.

Micro-evolution: An animal changes itself to fit better into an environment or to become dominant over other species due to variation. This species can reproduce with the others.

Macro-evolution: An animal changes itself to fit better into an environment or to become dominant over other species due to variation. This species can't reproduce with the others and is usually the only one left.

If you DID understand evolution you would see what people mean and say, instead of making shit up.

Originally posted by Captain Falcon
If you DID understand evolution you would see what people mean and say, instead of making shit up.

Because I don't agree with you I'm wrong 😆 What stupid logic, You can't even debate me with your own words you rely on links that don't even answer my questions as rebuttals.

Originally posted by Captain Falcon

Micro-evolution: An animal changes itself to fit better into an environment or to become dominant over other species due to variation. This species can reproduce with the others.

Macro-evolution: An animal changes itself to fit better into an environment or to become dominant over other species due to variation. This species can't reproduce with the others and is usually the only one left.

They are not the same, look it up yourself falcon.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Because I don't agree with you I'm wrong 😆 What stupid logic, You can't even debate me with your own words you rely on links that don't even answer my questions as rebuttals.

do you even look at the links and my posts? I say what is said, and put up REFERENCES to support my claim. Unlike you who talks out of his ass.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
They are not the same, look it up yourself falcon.

Okay, there is a difference. Macro-new cresture can't reproduce. Micro-new creature can reproduce.

sorry little buddy, but you don't understand evolution.......you like to think you do but you don't. Agree with the theory, don't agree with the theory........that's up for you to decide.......it just makes you look a bit of a fool when you don't take the time to understand something before making a decision whether to agree or disagree. Macro-evolution is simply 2 or more seperate occurances of micro-evolution in a species........you claim that micro exists but not macro.....that just doesn't make any sense. You keep talking about species boundries and whatnot without ever taking the time to simply realize that species are simply labels that man made up to describe like animals.........donkeys and horses are obviously not the same species, they seem to have no trouble breeding......introducing new traits to an entire new species (mule) that were not there before......because the species itself wasn't there until these two species bred. You talk in circles.....saying the same thing over and over while everybody else who passes through this thread tries to get you to atleast learn how evolution works......you can still disagree with it if you want.....but atleast then it will be an informed decision and not just, "my bible doesn't say anything about evolution"..........

Originally posted by Captain Falcon
do you even look at the links and my posts? I say what is said and put up REFERENCES to support my claim. Unlike you who talks out of his ass.

Okay, there is a difference. Macro-new cresture can't reproduce. Micro-new creature can reproduce.

Because I don't post links, I'm talking out my ass ?
And you never make points you just throw insults and a link, a child could debate better then you.

evolution is a rate of change. If change happens, evolution happens. Simple. 😉

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Originally posted by Evil Dead
Macro-evolution is simply 2 or more seperate occurances of micro-evolution in a species........you claim that micro exists but not macro.....that just doesn't make any sense.

Yes it does make sense, Micro evolution is a law while macro evolution is a theory with no evidence. You claim micro evolution is a small change amongst species, what you can't seem to grasp is that these variations come from preexisting trait they are not foreign and already exist within the gene pool. the reason for variation amongst species is because of dominant and recessive traits, you can receive a trait from your mother but it won't show because it isn't a dominant trait but it still exist in your gene pool.micro evolution explains variation of species not origin.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
You keep talking about species boundries and whatnot without ever taking the time to simply realize that species are simply labels that man made up to describe like animals.........donkeys and horses are obviously not the same species, they seem to have no trouble breeding......introducing new traits to an entire new species (mule) that were not there before......because the species itself wasn't there until these two species bred.

Mules are sterile, and there is a barrier between species it's called genetic homeostasis. yes there are a few example's of species interbreeding but they are: 1.generally sterile 2.unsuccessful in nature 3. and rare. you have yet proved macro evolution and how mutations add foreign traits to the gene pool.

bullshit mules are steril, number one. Most are.......but Mules have successfully mated with both horses and with donkeys.........

buddy, look up mutation.......read the definition......it has nothing to do with a gene pool. For any given trait....your gene pool is 4.....your parent's dominant and recessive. Of those you only get 2.......one dominant and one recessive for you. It has nothing to do with species nor a gene pool which exists therein. Mutations occur when one of the genes being passed becomes flawed or errored in some way during the process.........resulting in it producing cells with different traits or function to the offspring.

by the way.......cancer. That's the easiest and most well known mutation. As a matter of fact, the error doesn't even have to happen during transfer from parent to offspring. Perfect copies of genes can be passed.......cells can be produced from that blue print to create a perfectly healthy human being...........only to have an introduced chemical cause cell mutation later.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Yes it does make sense, Micro evolution is a law while macro evolution is a theory with no evidence.
No evidence????????????????? Microo evolution is evidence for macro evolution. *******. Evolution (in general) is a theory that species adapt to their environments due to laws and the way cells work. The Bible says "God did it". Do you see?
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
You claim micro evolution is a small change amongst species, what you can't seem to grasp is that these variations come from preexisting trait they are not foreign and already exist within the gene pool.
WTF? You just said that species change because the causes of change are already there? That Micro-evolution just happens? 🤨 it's so stupid, I don't think I need a full explanation, anyone with brains can see the obvious stupidity in this section.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
the reason for variation amongst species is because of dominant and recessive traits,
wait, I thought the species already had the causes of change at the beginning.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
you can receive a trait from your mother but it won't show because it isn't a dominant trait
so all the scientific proof on this is wrong?
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
but it still exist in your gene pool.micro evolution explains variation of species not origin.
Ermm, duuuh, micro-evolution happened in the past, aswell as present and future. By knowing this we see the origin of how a species was once before.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Mules are sterile, and there is a barrier between species it's called genetic homeostasis. yes there are a few example's of species interbreeding but they are: 1.generally sterile 2.unsuccessful in nature 3. and rare.
"You can't reproduce two different species". All this proves is that evolution doesn't work that way.

How many people already knew that? *raises hand*

Originally posted by Evil Dead

buddy, look up mutation.......read the definition......it has nothing to do with a gene pool. For any given trait....your gene pool is 4.....your parent's dominant and recessive. Of those you only get 2.......one dominant and one recessive for you. It has nothing to do with species nor a gene pool which exists therein. Mutations occur when one of the genes being passed becomes flawed or errored in some way during the process.........resulting in it producing cells with different traits or function to the offspring.

These traits already exsit within the gene pool, what part of that can't you grasp. A mutation isn't some magical change that creates new traits it's an error of information within the organisms gene's hence current traits are effected.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
These traits already exsit within the gene pool, what part of that can't you grasp. A mutation isn't some magical change that creates new traits it's an error of information within the organisms gene's hence current traits are effected.
and, this disproves evolution, how?

Originally posted by Captain Falcon
No evidence????????????????? Microo evolution is evidence for macro evolution. *******. Evolution (in general) is a theory that species adapt to their environments due to laws and the way cells work. The Bible says "God did it". Do you see?*

Falcon, micro evolution explains variation amongst species not the origin.

Originally posted by Captain Falcon

WTF? You just said that species change because the causes of change are already there? That Micro-evolution just happens? 🤨 it's so stupid, I don't think I need a full explanation, anyone with brains can see the obvious stupidity in this section.

I describe what micro evolution, variations that occur from pre exsiting traits.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Falcon, micro evolution explains variation amongst species not the origin.

I describe what micro evolution, variations that occur from pre exsiting traits.

variations from pre-existing traits = origin.

Are you seriously that stupid. *checks BN's head* *puts his brain back in*

Originally posted by Captain Falcon
variations from pre-existing traits = origin.

Are you seriously that stupid. *checks BN's head* *puts his brain back in*

Variations amongst species explains origins of species?

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Originally posted by Captain Falcon
"You can't reproduce two different species". All this proves is that evolution doesn't work that way.

How many people already knew that? *raises hand*

Actually you can in plants and rarely in animals.