Originally posted by Blue nocturnewait, did you just say I proved you wrong with facts?
Your repeating yourself, I explained micro evolution to you over 5 times. 😆Look, why don't you debate me without: Insults,too much links, and facts.
If you want.
yeah, and each time I told you it's link with macro-evolution.
Originally posted by lord xyz
wait, did you just say I proved you wrong with facts?yeah, and each time I told you it's link with macro-evolution.
No, I mean define micro evolution again,unless your previous definition was your final?
Edit: This was your previous definiton
Originally posted by lord xyzMicro-evolution: An animal changes itself to fit better into an environment or to become dominant over other species due to variation. This species can reproduce with the others.
okay, here you go. I've tried to be funny but your too dumb to realise how dumb you are. So here I go.
Evolution can't be proven. That's why it's called a theory. Then again, there is no better explanation for the origin of life and extintion of past species, which is why it is taught and talked about. Rather than ask stupid ****ing questions on a forum, do some research yourself. If you have a better theory I'd like to see it. Until then, Shut The **** Up. That's my message. Show me a better theory.
Originally posted by Blue nocturnefine.
No, I mean define micro evolution again,unless your previous definition was your final?Edit: This was your previous definiton
Microevolution is the occurrence of small-scale changes in allele frequencies in a population, over a few generations, also known as change at or below the species level.These changes may be due to several processes: mutation, natural selection, gene flow, and genetic drift.
Population genetics is the branch of biology that provides the mathematical structure for the study of the process of microevolution. Ecological genetics concerns itself with observing microevolution in the wild. Typically, observable instances of evolution are examples of microevolution; for example, bacterial strains that have antibiotic resistance.
Microevolution can be contrasted with macroevolution; which is the occurrence of large-scale changes in gene frequencies, in a population, over a geological time period (i.e. consisting of lots of microevolution). The difference is largely one of approach. Microevolution is reductionist, but macroevolution is holistic. Each approach offers different insights into evolution.
Because microevolution can be observed directly, creationists agree that it occurs, though they tend to make a distinction between microevolution, macroevolution, and speciation.
Macroevolution refers to evolution that occurs above the level of species. In contrast, microevolution refers to smaller evolutionary changes (described as changes in allele frequencies) in populations. In the Modern Synthesis school of thought, microevolution is the "normal" mode of evolution. The process of speciation is the link between macroevolution and microevolution, and it can fall within the purview of either. Paleontology, evolutionary developmental biology, and comparative genomics contribute most of the evidence for the patterns and processes that can be classified as macroevolution.Macroevolution is controversial in two ways:
* It is disputed among biologists whether there are macroevolutionary processes that are not described by classical population genetics. This view is becoming less and less tenable as the role for genome-wide changes and developmental processes in evolution become clearer.
* A misunderstanding about this biological controversy has allowed the concept of macroevolution to be coopted by creationists. They use this controversy as a supposed "hole" in the evidence for deep-time evolution.
Originally posted by lord xyz
okay, here you go. I've tried to be funny but your too dumb to realise how dumb you are. So here I go.Evolution can't be proven. That's why it's called a theory. Then again, there is no better explanation for the origin of life and extintion of past species, which is why it is taught and talked about. Rather than ask stupid ****ing questions on a forum, do some research yourself. If you have a better theory I'd like to see it. Until then, Shut The **** Up. That's my message. Show me a better theory.
If it can't be proven, why defended and criticize others that don't believe it?
Edit: Where does it say an organism changes to fit it's enviorment like in your definition of micro evolution you.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=define%3Agenetic+variation
Many of those questions are ridiculous...
1-5 refer to cosmology not evolution
6-8. Are factually in-answerable. To prove these things we'd need to have the first cell in a petri dish. That is not possible. If we knew everything about the universe, we wouldn't have science.
Miller’s experiments in the 60's showed that Amino acids could be created in old-Earth conditions. A cell is a living organism composed of non-living components, the basic nature is of life is organization of non-organic components. Life is likely to have reproduced asexually like bacteria and would also have likely used some form of DNA as its genetic code.
9. This person misses the point. Yes, more individuals means more competition, but eventually you die and competition is reduced. The individual has a drive to survive because it cells don’t sporadically die. Cells are forced to reproduce through their mechanisms. Many animals have complex nervous systems and are huge multi cellular organisms. To overcome this, sexual intercourse developed because species that could consciously desire to reproduce would do better. Sex is fun and feels good, it serves as motivation to reproduce. This aids in the process of encouraging reproduction.
10. Recombining English letters will never produce Chinese books. This is a horrible anthology because all species use the same code, the same language. The aim wouldn’t be a Chinese novel, just another English one.
11 Yes, but its not exclusive to either one. If there is a “great designer” he’s very unoriginal. And he would have to evolve species...not design them. New animals don’t suddenly appear.
12. The genetic code has stayed the same. Organismal complexity can easily be explained by Hox genes and other mass-control mechanisms.
13. See every other answer...dates are not possible, we can only guess based on how things are today, but at least we try. Species die off and create gaps in the logic record. No species lives forever. All animals are exceedingly similar, especially in birds and reptiles. What do you want to know about these intermediate forms....their diet, color preference, body temperature? These are ridiculous demands.
14. Evolution 101....species evolve, they don’t develop. There is not suddenly a variation that you say “its a bat!” Its all about descent with modification, and things eventually get so different, we feel we can draw distinction.
15. Again we see crazy demands. What is he looking for dates? Things co-evolve to work with each other. If you get stronger stomach acid and the old stomach, it burns through and you die. If you get the stomach lining first and then the acid, you live and can digest better so you proliferate. Things learn to work together.
Short answer: this guy has no idea what he’s talking about and doesn’t ask intelligent questions.
Originally posted by AllianceYou should see his tapes 😆
Many of those questions are ridiculous...1-5 refer to cosmology not evolution
6-8. Are factually in-answerable. To prove these things we'd need to have the first cell in a petri dish. That is not possible. If we knew everything about the universe, we wouldn't have science.
Miller’s experiments in the 60's showed that Amino acids could be created in old-Earth conditions. A cell is a living organism composed of non-living components, the basic nature is of life is organization of non-organic components. Life is likely to have reproduced asexually like bacteria and would also have likely used some form of DNA as its genetic code.
9. This person misses the point. Yes, more individuals means more competition, but eventually you die and competition is reduced. The individual has a drive to survive because it cells don’t sporadically die. Cells are forced to reproduce through their mechanisms. Many animals have complex nervous systems and are huge multi cellular organisms. To overcome this, sexual intercourse developed because species that could consciously desire to reproduce would do better. Sex is fun and feels good, it serves as motivation to reproduce. This aids in the process of encouraging reproduction.
10. Recombining English letters will never produce Chinese books. This is a horrible anthology because all species use the same code, the same language. The aim wouldn’t be a Chinese novel, just another English one.
11 Yes, but its not exclusive to either one. If there is a “great designer” he’s very unoriginal. And he would have to evolve species...not design them. New animals don’t suddenly appear.
12. The genetic code has stayed the same. Organismal complexity can easily be explained by Hox genes and other mass-control mechanisms.
13. See every other answer...dates are not possible, we can only guess based on how things are today, but at least we try. Species die off and create gaps in the logic record. No species lives forever. All animals are exceedingly similar, especially in birds and reptiles. What do you want to know about these intermediate forms....their diet, color preference, body temperature? These are ridiculous demands.
14. Evolution 101....species evolve, they don’t develop. There is not suddenly a variation that you say “its a bat!” Its all about descent with modification, and things eventually get so different, we feel we can draw distinction.
15. Again we see crazy demands. What is he looking for dates? Things co-evolve to work with each other. If you get stronger stomach acid and the old stomach, it burns through and you die. If you get the stomach lining first and then the acid, you live and can digest better so you proliferate. Things learn to work together.
Short answer: this guy has no idea what he’s talking about and doesn’t ask intelligent questions.
Originally posted by AllianceKent Hovind makes some tapes about creationism and he's so ****ing stupid.
tapes?
his tapes and debates -- they're a bit long though.
a website about his lies and stupidity -- really funny.