Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Aren't you the guy who said that Cobra Unit can beat the X-Men?
im the guy that said the cobra unit could take 8 xmen WITH the help of the sorrow n none of the xmen other than storm or jean were extremely powerful. i ALSO said that it was jean without the pheonix force and that jean would kill all of the cobra unit other than the sorrow, who was dead and has become the abstract concept of sorrow. get ur facts straigth before speakin 😠
Originally posted by leonheartmm
im the guy that said the cobra unit could take 8 xmen WITH the help of the sorrow n none of the xmen other than storm or jean were extremely powerful. i ALSO said that it was jean without the pheonix force and that jean would kill all of the cobra unit other than the sorrow, who was dead and has become the abstract concept of sorrow. get ur facts straigth before speakin 😠
You said that the Sorrow would kill the Phoenix too. I'm not the one who needs to get the facts here.
but once u add the sorrow to the battle, even jean as pheonix, has no hope{mind u jean might kill each and every other cobra except the boss, but in the end, there is no killimng a wraith, and the sorrow would destroy jean, and the pheonix, because in his spirit form, he is more a concept of sorrow then he is a simple soldier
I remember you saying that Jean Grey would kill every member of the Cobra Unit exept The Boss and Sorrow. I understand Sorrow, but the boss?
Oh yeah, also:
the fear has stealth camouflage and more agility than even beast
the boss is a more skilled soldier than wolverine could ever be
There were lot more other ignorant posts like that, but I don't have the time to search through them all.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
You said that the Sorrow would kill the Phoenix too. I'm not the one who needs to get the facts here.I remember you saying that Jean Grey would kill every member of the Cobra Unit exept The Boss and Sorrow. I understand Sorrow, but the boss?
Oh yeah, also:
There were lot more other ignorant posts like that, but I don't have the time to search through them all.
thas how u wanna do it eh, fine 😄
i said first n foremost that the pheonix force was an unfair advantage and should be kept out n IF the pheonix force was included than the sorrow should also be included{which no1 had bothered with i think} n i SAID that the sorrow being a concept would also destroy what was THEN the classic pheonix force, that is the force of desire n life yet unborn, pheonix then was slightly above galacttus and the celestials, i TOOK IT BACK when the pheonix force was powered up to be the creator abstract of the whole universe{which happened while the thread was on} n i dont remember sayin that the pheonix wud not be able to kill the boss, if i did it was because the boss was supposedly the opposite of the sorrow, still i dont htink i said that.
the fear DOES have more agility than the beast n not an ordinary double jointed human being{as was being stated before} he could jumo from one end of the field to another in a single tride, i stated facts, n yes the boss always WILL be more skilled than wolverine, after all she took down volgin with her cqc didnt she, the same volgin who easily surpasses class 100 strength and could easily punch through armour that an rpg6 with HEAT warhead cud not even DENT.
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Originally posted by leonheartmm
thas how u wanna do it eh, fine 😄i said first n foremost that the pheonix force was an unfair advantage and should be kept out n IF the pheonix force was included than the sorrow should also be included{which no1 had bothered with i think} n i SAID that the sorrow being a concept would also destroy what was THEN the classic pheonix force, that is the force of desire n life yet unborn, pheonix then was slightly above galacttus and the celestials, i TOOK IT BACK when the pheonix force was powered up to be the creator abstract of the whole universe{which happened while the thread was on} n i dont remember sayin that the pheonix wud not be able to kill the boss, if i did it was because the boss was supposedly the opposite of the sorrow, still i dont htink i said that.
the fear DOES have more agility than the beast n not an ordinary double jointed human being{as was being stated before} he could jumo from one end of the field to another in a single tride, i stated facts, n yes the boss always WILL be more skilled than wolverine, after all she took down volgin with her cqc didnt she, the same volgin who easily surpasses class 100 strength and could easily punch through armour that an rpg6 with HEAT warhead cud not even DENT.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
You said that the Sorrow would kill the Phoenix too. I'm not the one who needs to get the facts here.I remember you saying that Jean Grey would kill every member of the Cobra Unit exept The Boss and Sorrow. I understand Sorrow, but the boss?
Oh yeah, also:
There were lot more other ignorant posts like that, but I don't have the time to search through them all.
I can admit that i used to be a dumbass and i probably contributed to the idiocy on that thread...
Originally posted by leonheartmmthe fear DOES have more agility than the beast n not an ordinary double jointed human being{as was being stated before} he could jumo from one end of the field to another in a single tride, i stated facts, n yes the boss always WILL be more skilled than wolverine, after all she took down volgin with her cqc didnt she, the same volgin who easily surpasses class 100 strength and could easily punch through armour that an rpg6 with HEAT warhead cud not even DENT.
The fear DOES NOT have more agility then Beast. He NEVER showed anything remotely close to Beast's agility in the game. He appeared in few cutscenes and in boss battle. What did he do? Jumped from a tree to tree and used his climbed around without his hands. Beast did stuff like that as a 16 year old. Fear is so far behind Beast in agility department that it isn't even funny. I could show you thousands of pictures spanning 43 years in comics. Only stuff you have is the scenes from game that don't show anything comparable to Beast's stuff.
Boss is nowhere as skilled as Wolverine. Wolverine is more experienced, knows more fighting arts then Boss, is faster, more durable, stronger...he beats her so hard and so fast that it's not humanly possible.
Luckily Wolverine isn't human. Boss is.
And Volgin is either an extremely strong pussy who can't fight a trained human or then he isn't just a Class 100. Normal humans just don't beat Class 100's. And Volgin sure as hell doesn't surpass Class 100 strength. Maybe if he had lifted the tank and threw it away, but I am just afraid that getting your ass kicked by a human woman (and a man) and punching through metal just isn't enough to clarify you to Class 100. If he really was one, his punches would have splattered Snake all over the wall when he was torturing him.
Heh, he was even killed by exploding gunpowder. Where as other Class 100's take miniature nuclear bombs at their faces and suffer nothing.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
The fear DOES NOT have more agility then Beast. He NEVER showed anything remotely close to Beast's agility in the game. He appeared in few cutscenes and in boss battle. What did he do? Jumped from a tree to tree and used his climbed around without his hands. Beast did stuff like that as a 16 year old. Fear is so far behind Beast in agility department that it isn't even funny. I could show you thousands of pictures spanning 43 years in comics. Only stuff you have is the scenes from game that don't show anything comparable to Beast's stuff.Boss is nowhere as skilled as Wolverine. Wolverine is more experienced, knows more fighting arts then Boss, is faster, more durable, stronger...he beats her so hard and so fast that it's not humanly possible.
Luckily Wolverine isn't human. Boss is.
And Volgin is either an extremely strong pussy who can't fight a trained human or then he isn't just a Class 100. Normal humans just don't beat Class 100's. And Volgin sure as hell doesn't [b]surpass
Class 100 strength. Maybe if he had lifted the tank and threw it away, but I am just afraid that getting your ass kicked by a human woman (and a man) and punching through metal just isn't enough to clarify you to Class 100. If he really was one, his punches would have splattered Snake all over the wall when he was torturing him.Heh, he was even killed by exploding gunpowder. Where as other Class 100's take miniature nuclear bombs at their faces and suffer nothing. [/B]
actually no, the fear jumped from one end of the fight area{whic was a LARGE portion of the forest} to the other end in one jump. provin all that u said wrong, beast can not jump the length of footbal fields in a single jump, its a fact deal with it.
ur oppinion of wolverine is definately biased. the boss put down volgin{who i will shortly prove IS class 100 n extremely durable} who was class 100, extremely fast and extremely durable. she used an m16 patriot with a single hand and its supposed to be impossible for a human to handle that gun single handedely no matter how strong, she was before snake, the greatest soldier that ever lives n was definately more skilled than wolverine{as her battle record proves}
as far as volgin goes, u can insult him as much as he want but he has his feats toi back up everything. he punched a hole easily{while smiling} through the armour of the shagohod, the same armour that an rp6 6 with HEAT warhead could not even dent, the rpg6 with heat EASILY generates more force in the affected area than the punch of a cl 100 strength character{who uses his entire body} n it cudnt even DENT it, while volgin punched right through it easily. THAT says a lot about volgin's strength n because of this it IS very easilu above class 100. volgin also punched holes in reinfirced concrete with the depth of his gigantic arm{half of it} does any1 here have any idea to how strong military grade reinforced concrete is? he survived a charge of ten million volts at all times and had enough energy to recharge the front of the shagohod. also his em shield is strong enoughto deflect 50 caliber machine gun fire. the fact that he lost to snake doesnt mean thgat he is weak, it only means that snake is an AWESOME foe, sum1 who exerts his mind and body way beyond any human, he is also the greatest soldier that ever lived{behind solid} and definately the greatest soldier of the twentieth century. his skill were unsurpassed by any1 before him. oh n btw, normal humans cant take on entire armies either, so that normal human argument just goes down the drain, it wasnt PIS as its a vid game, n thus it is what it is n its fact. finally the last part of ur post was a LIE,
volgin did not die from an exploding barrel, not even close, heck he didnt die when hundreds of tons of pure rocket fuel exploded around him in the hanger, not to mention high powered C3 explosives!{further proof of his durability} he ONLY died when a bolt of lightening from a mystical storm hit him, n this was NO ordinary bolt of lightning, it was a mystical bolt of lightening created by THE SORROW. n THAT finally killed him, alond with the shagohod exploding n the chain of 50 caliber bullets next to his skin all exploding.
The Fear was no where as Agile as Beast. He was just a double jointed freak with crossbow. He didn't jump from one end of the stage to anotehr he ran fast as hell and he jumped from tree to tree.
Here is the problem with bringing in vidoe game characters. Its interactive. So you have to be able to win. Snake or Boss or whatever don't have any objective feats to warrent their inclusion in any realistic debate.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
actually no, the fear jumped from one end of the fight area{whic was a LARGE portion of the forest} to the other end in one jump. provin all that u said wrong, beast can not jump the length of footbal fields in a single jump, its a fact deal with it.
He did not jump from the other end to the other end, like Warmonger said. He is still a double-jointed human. Beast's jumping abilities far, far outlast Fear's. And that is a fact.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
ur oppinion of wolverine is definately biased. the boss put down volgin{who i will shortly prove IS class 100 n extremely durable} who was class 100, extremely fast and extremely durable. she used an m16 patriot with a single hand and its supposed to be impossible for a human to handle that gun single handedely no matter how strong, she was before snake, the greatest soldier that ever lives n was definately more skilled than wolverine{as her battle record proves}
Her battle record is laughable against Wolverine's. Wolverine has taken entire armies of ninjas and soldiers before and won, fought about ever major Marvel character (and 99% of them would beat Boss down like no tomorrow) fared well. He has been fighting longer then Boss, trained longer then Boss, fought waaaaaay more impressive, dangerous, better trained and lethal villains then Boss, and outlasts and beats Boss in every-possible-category you can name, well, except being a woman.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
as far as volgin goes, u can insult him as much as he want but he has his feats toi back up everything. he punched a hole easily{while smiling} through the armour of the shagohod, the same armour that an rp6 6 with HEAT warhead could not even dent, the rpg6 with heat EASILY generates more force in the affected area than the punch of a cl 100 strength character{who uses his entire body} n it cudnt even DENT it, while volgin punched right through it easily. THAT says a lot about volgin's strength n because of this it IS very easilu above class 100. volgin also punched holes in reinfirced concrete with the depth of his gigantic arm{half of it} does any1 here have any idea to how strong military grade reinforced concrete is? he survived a charge of ten million volts at all times and had enough energy to recharge the front of the shagohod. also his em shield is strong enoughto deflect 50 caliber machine gun fire. the fact that he lost to snake doesnt mean thgat he is weak, it only means that snake is an AWESOME foe, sum1 who exerts his mind and body way beyond any human, he is also the greatest soldier that ever lived{behind solid} and definately the greatest soldier of the twentieth century. his skill were unsurpassed by any1 before him. oh n btw, normal humans cant take on entire armies either, so that normal human argument just goes down the drain, it wasnt PIS as its a vid game, n thus it is what it is n its fact. finally the last part of ur post was a LIE,volgin did not die from an exploding barrel, not even close, heck he didnt die when hundreds of tons of pure rocket fuel exploded around him in the hanger, not to mention high powered C3 explosives!{further proof of his durability} he ONLY died when a bolt of lightening from a mystical storm hit him, n this was NO ordinary bolt of lightning, it was a mystical bolt of lightening created by THE SORROW. n THAT finally killed him, alond with the shagohod exploding n the chain of 50 caliber bullets next to his skin all exploding.
Snake is still a normal human. If Volgin is Class 100 (which he isn't) he would literally be hundreds of times stronger then Snake. No amount of skill help you against opponent like that. Unlike Volgin, Class 100's don't get owned by humans, no matter what training the humans have.
And he punched through Shagohod and reinforced concrete. Those are really tame feats in the world of Class 100's. They topple entire battleships with one punch. Punch through stuff that has been made to withstand thousand megatons of explosions with ease. Lift tankers. Are dropped from space with no injuries. Are burned with blasts that are hotter then sun and have no damage at all. I could list literally dozens of feats that make Volgin's look pathetic when compared. Volgin's strength and durability feats just don't compare...at all.
Volgin is not Class 100, nor is he as durable or strong as them.
Beast is more agile, faster, stronger and smarter then Fear.
Boss would get her ass kicked by Wolverine.
Facts are facts.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
actually no, the fear jumped from one end of the fight area{whic was a LARGE portion of the forest} to the other end in one jump. provin all that u said wrong, beast can not jump the length of footbal fields in a single jump, its a fact deal with it.ur oppinion of wolverine is definately biased. the boss put down volgin{who i will shortly prove IS class 100 n extremely durable} who was class 100, extremely fast and extremely durable. she used an m16 patriot with a single hand and its supposed to be impossible for a human to handle that gun single handedely no matter how strong, she was before snake, the greatest soldier that ever lives n was definately more skilled than wolverine{as her battle record proves}
as far as volgin goes, u can insult him as much as he want but he has his feats toi back up everything. he punched a hole easily{while smiling} through the armour of the shagohod, the same armour that an rp6 6 with HEAT warhead could not even dent, the rpg6 with heat EASILY generates more force in the affected area than the punch of a cl 100 strength character{who uses his entire body} n it cudnt even DENT it, while volgin punched right through it easily. THAT says a lot about volgin's strength n because of this it IS very easilu above class 100. volgin also punched holes in reinfirced concrete with the depth of his gigantic arm{half of it} does any1 here have any idea to how strong military grade reinforced concrete is? he survived a charge of ten million volts at all times and had enough energy to recharge the front of the shagohod. also his em shield is strong enoughto deflect 50 caliber machine gun fire. the fact that he lost to snake doesnt mean thgat he is weak, it only means that snake is an AWESOME foe, sum1 who exerts his mind and body way beyond any human, he is also the greatest soldier that ever lived{behind solid} and definately the greatest soldier of the twentieth century. his skill were unsurpassed by any1 before him. oh n btw, normal humans cant take on entire armies either, so that normal human argument just goes down the drain, it wasnt PIS as its a vid game, n thus it is what it is n its fact. finally the last part of ur post was a LIE,
volgin did not die from an exploding barrel, not even close, heck he didnt die when hundreds of tons of pure rocket fuel exploded around him in the hanger, not to mention high powered C3 explosives!{further proof of his durability} he ONLY died when a bolt of lightening from a mystical storm hit him, n this was NO ordinary bolt of lightning, it was a mystical bolt of lightening created by THE SORROW. n THAT finally killed him, alond with the shagohod exploding n the chain of 50 caliber bullets next to his skin all exploding.
Your full of shit , you can't compare a OUTDATED weapon and compare it too a punch with one hundred tons behind it.