Originally posted by Locard
[B]Cap vs DaredevilEm..I couldn't find the following scans in english, so im gonna make a quick translation spanish-english so everyone can read it, because it deserves to be posted here.
SCENARIO:
A cemetery. DD is beatin up someone to death, he's been sprayed with a special gas by the Deathstalker and is having allucinations. He kinda regained his sight but he's lookin everyone as if they were monsters.Enters Cap
CAP: Sorry DD, you need to stop
CAP: i've never seen him like this, doesn't look like him
CAP: he looks..maddenedCAP: Why is he lookin at me like that? he doesn't seem to recognize me.
CAP: as if i was a....DD: mONSTER!!
DD:yaaagh!CAP: ouff
CAP: c'mon pal. whats happening?
CAP:No. Daredevil doesn't look mad.
DD: Shut up monster! shut up!!
CAP: Daredevil IS mad
DD: aargh!
CAP: I wish i could say this hurts me more than it hurts you. But it'd be a lie.CAP: the madness doesn't make him less agile, fast...
CAP: dangerousCAP: argh!
CAP: i ignore the pain. have a lot of questions in mind.
CAP: what happened? what have they done to him?
CAP: it must have been the Deathstalker! must have drugged him, or something like that.
CAP: what can i do?
CAP: wait a moment! i got itCAP: bring it on Daredevil. let's finish this!
DD: aaaahhh!
DD: nnngh
DD: What?
DD:what's happening?
DD: blind! im blind again!
DD: was i really seeing? or only pretending to see?DD: Cap! it's you!
CAP: who do you think i was?DD: a monster..you looked like a monster. It must have been that gas! i have been allucinating. But, now it's over!
CAP: fine. the shock provoked by the adrenaline injection was enough to make you regain your senses. just as i hoped. Im glad i came here with a survival kit
CAP: survival...for him. he must not die.DD: then, Cap explains me why. and everything makes sense. a logic..
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So we have feats of:
FIGHTING ABILITY:
Cap clearly dominates the fight. DD is going all out while Cap is not, and Cap states that DD is as fast, agile and dangerous as ever.
In the last frames Cap even lets DD to tackle him in order to get close, so he can inject DD and help him to overcome the madness.DURABILITY:
He got hit in the back of the head by DD's billy club, and he doesn't fall or even retaliate, most people would have been unconsciouss after taking that hit.INTELLIGENCE:
He figures out what's really happening with DD and how to help him on the spot. [/B]
Let's talk about all the fights that Daredevil had against Cap.
Matt has a great disadvantage fighting against Cap. He can't read his moves, due to the Super Soldier Serum, so he doesn't know when or where Cap is going to throw a punch until he throws it.
Not exactly. There was one instance when DD couldn't read Cap's heart. But DD has other ways to read an opponent. And unless I'm mistaken, DD was quite tired at the time. Though, it wasn't mentioned as the reason he had trouble reading Cap.
In another instance, DD could read Cap just fine.
The two have fought multiple times.
One was a nearly issue long classic fight in DD's fight. Cap was even using his shield while DD was unarmed and it was a stalemate.
The next fight was in DD's title again. DD turns off the lights at Avengers Mansion and engages the Avengers (Cap, Hercules, Beast, Black Widow). He casually defeats most of them including Cap. And that's while DD was weakened and delirious.
I don't think DD was weakened, his mind was not right though. Plus fighting them in the dark really helped DD since they did not know it was him and he DD can literally see in the dark with his Radar/hyper senses. Not regular circumstances for sure.
And there was another fight where Cap was off the deep end and became bad. DD engaged him in a warehouse and Cap seemed to get the better of DD. Though, it should be noted that Cap was basically "bad" so not holding back, while DD obviously was holding back.
And there's the Streets of Poison fight where Cap (mentally unstable, agressive, not holding back, but not in top shape) beats down DD (who was seriously weakened and just went through hell, literally).
Also, DD defeated Infomorph, a being who had absorbed DD's and Cap's skills, possibly among others. Though, that's not representative at all IMHO. But if he could beat Infomorph he would be able to beat Captain America.
This is why I can't say Cap beats Daredevil, it's 5/10 for each when they are not holding back in a fair fight, really.
I just can't see this fight going any other way.
What about you.
So, tell me where did Cap beat Daredevil in a fair fight with no mind controlling or anything like this?
Basically, Cap, Daredevil, Black Panther would fight 5/10 for each this is how I always since there has never been a true victor in a fair fight.
In the scan youz show, Daredevil was drugged so he lost his clear view and agility.
Dare Devil has the speed and Reflex’s to avoid anything Cap throw’s at him, he douse not need the strength, this is a guy who has defeated the like’s of Spiderman in combat a being with greater athleticism speed strength and on par reflexs, however his attuned seance served to help him defeat spidey, and we all know spidey is alot faster and stronger than Captain America is.
These are my favorite 2 battle’s between Spidey and DD because we all know Symbiotic Spidey is even more powerful than regular Spidey however DD can still go toe 2 toe with him showing he has more than enough to go toe to toe with Cap.
Here we have a brutal and cold Spidey who hold’s nothing back against DD, yet DD uses tactic’s to anger Spidey into a frenzy to defeat him.
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posted by Vice Amura...
Like Cap, Daredevil has also defeated many metahumans, however Cap does it with his shield, so it's much easier for Cap.
It would be 5/10 for each in a fair, non-holding back fight.
I like both Cap and Daredevil very, very much, but to be honest Cap has yet to beat Daredevil in a fair fight and vice-versa.
Any other fight between Daredevil and Captain America that has happened recently?
Cheers.
