PhoenixForce(whitecrown) & Thanos(hotu) vs the Endless & MorningstarBrothers

Originally posted by kevdude
Well i might have to give it to Lucifer and Michael, they both are equal and only God and his abstracts are above them. Lucifer did act as though he could have killed Death but its the way Death acted in return when she just stood ther and looked at him in the eyes and Lucifer then just didn't do anything.

Lucifer has been mortal and outsmarted Gods and killed demons with his brains. He even took out 2 beings who was trying to replace The Presence as his replacement.

But then again they could end up losing, they have lost before, but not that has almost never happened.

No way woud Lucifer and Michael stand a chance against THOTU, and here is also The Pheonix Force. Puf, Endless and brothers can't do anything here. Thay are toast.

Originally posted by Xplosive
No way woud Lucifer and Michael stand a chance against THOTU, and here is also The Pheonix Force. Puf, Endless and brothers can't do anything here. Thay are toast.

Originally posted by Xplosive
No way woud Lucifer and Michael stand a chance against THOTU, and here is also The Pheonix Force. Puf, Endless and brothers can't do anything here. Thay are toast.

actually they most certainly can. lucifer stood at ground zero of the demiurgic multiverse destroying explosion and wasnt evern scratched{which in EVERY way compared to the raging inferno created by thanos w THOTU which destroyed the multiverse and all abstracts including LT}

and the phoenix force as has been proven time and time again is the chief UNIVERSAL abstract. she has no feats even COMPAREABLE to lucifer or micheal.

both of them are beyond the DC MEGAVERSAL death, beyond and above that is, neither phoenix nor thotu can even bruise em.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
actually they most certainly can. lucifer stood at ground zero of the demiurgic multiverse destroying explosion and wasnt evern scratched{which in EVERY way compared to the raging inferno created by thanos w THOTU which destroyed the multiverse and all abstracts including LT}

and the phoenix force as has been proven time and time again is the chief UNIVERSAL abstract. she has no feats even COMPAREABLE to lucifer or micheal.

both of them are beyond the DC MEGAVERSAL death, beyond and above that is, neither phoenix nor thotu can even bruise em.

Speculation!!! Support it with on panel evidence or let it slide. 😉

Lucifer has shown if you can turn his power against him that hes susceptible to Death.

Both the brothers have shown that their powers are dependent on Yahweh.

The demiurgic blast Michael unleashed was not multiversal. It resulted in the building blocks for a UNIVERSE. All the creations in the Lucifer title are universes.

I'll be back either 2nite or 2morrow with scans at hand. Dont say it was multiversal again Leon or i will proceed to embarass you. 😮

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Speculation!!! Support it with on panel evidence or let it slide. 😉

Lucifer has shown if you can turn his power against him that hes susceptible to Death.

Both the brothers have shown that their powers are dependent on Yahweh.

The demiurgic blast Michael unleashed was not multiversal. It resulted in the building blocks for a UNIVERSE. All the creations in the Lucifer title are universes.

I'll be back either 2nite or 2morrow with scans at hand. Dont say it was multiversal again Leon or i will proceed to embarass you. 😮

ur mother cudnt embarras me boy, n the only reason u had a chance was cause i LET u, i cudnt be bothered about some damn forum when hell was breakin lose aroun me in reality.

as far as the universal/multiversal thing goes. phoenix has NO multiversal feats, the one that might have ben taken that way was also done by cyclops and so is not powerful or multiversal at all. THOTU also basically destroyed a UNIVERSE, or as it was said, but that universe was also connected to all other universes in the multiverse and seeing as LTa multiversal being was also destroyed, it stands to reason that all universes connected to the main reality were also destroyed.

its the same for lucifer, even though he created a UNIVERSE, he actually just created a REALITY, a reality which reasonable also has other universes with the main one. {it has been shown that even in YAHWEH'S "UNIVERSE" there are paths leading to other realities and universes connected to the main one which yahweh has power over} and as lucifer's universe rivalled yahweh's it is reasonable to say that it is the MAIN universe which has other universes connected to it under the power of lucifer. and anyway, lucifer has power second to only the presence which is MEGAVERSAL entity, not to mention that the endless are also MEGAVERSAL and lucifer is shown to be beyond the endless.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
actually they most certainly can. lucifer stood at ground zero of the demiurgic multiverse destroying explosion and wasnt evern scratched{which in EVERY way compared to the raging inferno created by thanos w THOTU which destroyed the multiverse and all abstracts including LT}

and the phoenix force as has been proven time and time again is the chief UNIVERSAL abstract. she has no feats even COMPAREABLE to lucifer or micheal.

both of them are beyond the DC MEGAVERSAL death, beyond and above that is, neither phoenix nor thotu can even bruise em.

Michael demiurgic destroying explosion has no evidence to be more powerful than THOTU (and I think demiurgic destroying explosion wouldn't affect LT, as it didn't affect Lucifer). Actully, do you remember when all abstract shot their most pwoerful blast (also LT), against THOTU at the same time (that blast probaly had enough power to destroy multiverse) and it didn't stratch THOTU, the same would happen with demgruic explosin. THOTU would only laugh. I can't see Lucifer and Michael having a chance against PF and THOTU.
I see PF or THOTU taking them alone.

PF no comparable feats to Lucifer or Michael. Lucifer created a universe (with Micheal help), PF created a Multiverse.

you idiot thanos with hotu destroyed the entire marvel universe no one is stronger then him

no one can deafeat thanos with hotu so please stop making stupid threads

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
you idiot thanos with hotu destroyed the entire marvel universe no one is stronger then him

That's not the DC galaxy - universe or multi-verse, in this battle they are fighting in a seperate universe and they all have full access to their powers,
and Lucifer and Michael together have jsut as much power together as Thanos and possibly even more.
And the Endless which are 7 but I cut it to 3, have multi-versal authority in dc/vertigo reality.
So obviously their power is limitless aswell.
Now the question is if the combination of the White Phoenix of the Crown
and The Heart of the Universe out weighs the combination of Lucifer & Michael's powers plus the 3 Endless known as Death - Dream and Destruction?

The Phoenix Force cannot be killed in it's native form, the mortal host of the Phoenix can be killed! It is the resurrection force and it only dies when it needs to to reform as something higher than it was before.