Magneto vs. Darth Sidious

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Originally posted by h1a8
read the two posts directly above this.

Ok done. And ?

Originally posted by Nick1989
H1a8 Im afraid ive been a Star Wars fan for about 20 years. So i dont have a clue how you could tell me that i know nothing about Star Wars. Sidious has been a very powerful character in the entire Star Wars saga. Sidious' abilities are beyond anything we've experienced in any of the films. He is ambiguous weapon user and is also a master of every weapon and every style. In the Jedi levels of fighting combat Sidious and Yoda are both level 9s. What i meant about Magneto beating Sidious was true. If you read my post again you will know. While Sidious was using his lighting on Yoda he was hurling Senate Pods at him. I said that if Sidious and Magneto were in the Senate and were using pods(no lightning or lightsaber combat) Magneto would win. I didint say anything about Sidious using his ataru style combat. Sidious' lightsaber is made of electrum lightsaber so i believe Magneto would have no problem controling it. Electrum is an alloy that is made up of gold, copper and silver. If Sidious used a lightsaber he would use his Force Speed ability he would destroy Magneto; which is how he killed Kit Fisto, Saesee Tiin and Agen Kolar extremely quickly. That is my opinion about Sidious and Magneto. So i believe it is you who knows nothing about Star Wars.

you don't know much about star wars to say things like that
i've not only been a fan for 23 years but i have read plenty of novels and comics.
all the things you said are irrelevant.
you must combat what i said about sith lords being able to instantly burst organs, ripp throats, etc.
Force users cannot do these things on each other ( they can negate the force-read some older star war novels for more details). That is why sid shot electricity at yoda and jedi battle each other using light sabers.
Mag loses 10/10 easily
If you are still not convinced then combat my instantly bursting organs argument.
Pretend you are mags and sids and you battle yourself,
who would win?
you should answer
sid (if you got common sense)
none (if you got half common sense)
mags (if you got no common sense)

😂 I find these pro-starwars debate argument's really funny. Mind Trick would work? don't me laugh.

And if i was sidious, i can imagine my suddenly assaulted with my own lightsaber or thrown into a wormhole to the sun.

Originally posted by h1a8
you don't know much about star wars to say things like that
i've not only been a fan for 23 years but i have read plenty of novels and comics.
all the things you said are irrelevant.
you must combat what i said about sith lords being able to instantly burst organs, ripp throats, etc.
Force users cannot do these things on each other ( they can negate the force-read some older star war novels for more details). That is why sid shot electricity at yoda and jedi battle each other using light sabers.
Mag loses 10/10 easily
If you are still not convinced then combat my instantly bursting organs argument.
Pretend you are mags and sids and you battle yourself,
who would win?
you should answer
sid (if you got common sense)
none (if you got half common sense)
mags (if you got no common sense)

Well im not like you. I dont read EU comics and books. I based my theories on the films. You might know alot about the comics but it isint really true. Lucas has announced on many occations that he has no loyality towards the EU comics etc. I have never heard about Lucas's or anyother member of Lucasfilms etc talk about bursting organs etc. So techincally your wrong. Its all from a certain point of view.

Originally posted by Nick1989
Well im not like you. I dont read EU comics and books. I based my theories on the films. You might know alot about the comics but it isint really true. Lucas has announced on many occations that he has no loyality towards the EU comics etc. I have never heard about Lucas's or anyother member of Lucasfilms etc talk about bursting organs etc. So techincally your wrong. Its all from a certain point of view.

If you go by the movies then it is still easy to see how sid can instantly crush mags throat or burst one of his organs. Remember in episode 2 where Dooku instantly (in a sec) crushed a steel column and made it fall towards obi-wan. Organs and throats are far weaker than a steel column. Sid can even crush his whole body at once (in a sec).

Oh.. cool. So in which comics or books does a Sith use the abiltiy to burst organs etc with the Force? I know that Vader can use force choke to break peoples throats. But ive never heard of an ability of the Force that can explode vital organs. Please explain.

you foolish people as Sith lord can not stand up to the powers of the mutant master of magmatisum.

every seems to think that magneto is weak minded.. in a battle of wills magneto has gone toe to toe with Xavier. also the metal of his helmet also blocks telepathy.

and yes magneto can control blood. blood has iron in it. and thus he can control it. ( everyone must remmeber xorn pretending to be xorn pretending to be Magneto killing Jean... however that was xorn pretending to be xorn pretending to be mangento). however i remember in x-men alpha he slowed bishops blood.

recently magneto has shown that he is one with the force of magnatisum to such an extent that he can create worm holes. the only reason Yoda lost was because he is a Jedi.. however Magneto is no jedi. but he is damned clever. and he knows how to use his powers. if this battle takes place on say some type of orbiting station then i can see magneto just thrusting the station into the local sun. or just bludgoning him to death with some iron gurders. and he has enough magnokenisis to defend himself with.

Anything Sidious can do, Magneto can do faster. Sidious spontaneously loses control of every part of his body at once and slices himself up with his own lightsaber. Or his nervous system explodes. Or he gets tossed into a black hole. Or all the metal in the room turns against him. Or HE gets mind controlled into jumping into space. Or he just gets blasted into pieces with pure electromagnetic force. Or he gets radiated to death with microwaves or gamma waves (part of the EM spectrum). Or shot up with electricity.

Should I go on? I can think of about another 10 things Magneto can do...

poor starwars fanboys, they weren't ready for demigawd.

Do not underestimate Sidious and neither Magneto. No one can be sure of who would win becuase their in different worlds, different galaxys. They both have their strengths and weaknesses.

Originally posted by Nick1989
Its all from a certain point of view.
You sound like Obi-Wan Kenobi.

Anyways Starwars characters are not popular in the comic forums. I really don't know why but it's true. Comic fans don't respect Starwars fans and their characters.

Probably cause their power levels in comics and other EU material seems to be exaggeration of their movie counterparts.

Originally posted by demigawd
Anything Sidious can do, Magneto can do faster. Sidious spontaneously loses control of every part of his body at once and slices himself up with his own lightsaber. Or his nervous system explodes. Or he gets tossed into a black hole. Or all the metal in the room turns against him. Or HE gets mind controlled into jumping into space. Or he just gets blasted into pieces with pure electromagnetic force. Or he gets radiated to death with microwaves or gamma waves (part of the EM spectrum). Or shot up with electricity.

Should I go on? I can think of about another 10 things Magneto can do...

That is garbage!
Magneto can't do those things! (He never has and never will)
He can reverse blood flow though.
He can only shoot electrical form of energy out (such as electricity)
But it is not very practical (that is why you rarely see him use this)
He can only control very weak minded people to a small extent.
What can stop Sid from killing mags? (he can crush his body instantaneously)
Sid can kill Mags at least 10 times faster than mags can kill Sid.
Stop being a fanboy for a second and consider the evidence.
1. Dooku instantaneously crushed a steel column (this is what Sid can do to mags)
2. Don't assume Sid has iron in his blood (he is not human).
3. Mags mind control ability is so weak that he rarely ever uses it. Marvel says only uses it on very weak minded individuals.

The test to see if someone is a fanboy
1. Does he/she rebute an argument by its details? (you didn't rebut 1. on the above list)
2. Does he/she create or exaggerate someone's powers and abilities? (you did this here)

Thus you are a fanboy.
If both of us were given a choice to be either mags or sids and after we must battle to death then I am certain you would choose sids. (unless you are crazy.)

Originally posted by h1a8
That is garbage!
Magneto can't do those things! (He never has and never will)
He can reverse blood flow though.
He can only shoot electrical form of energy out (such as electricity)
But it is not very practical (that is why you rarely see him use this)
He can only control very weak minded people to a small extent.
What can stop Sid from killing mags? (he can crush his body instantaneously)
Sid can kill Mags at least 10 times faster than mags can kill Sid.
Stop being a fanboy for a second and consider the evidence.
1. Dooku [B]instantaneously
crushed a steel column (this is what Sid can do to mags)
2. Don't assume Sid has iron in his blood (he is not human).
3. Mags mind control ability is so weak that he rarely ever uses it. Marvel says only uses it on very weak minded individuals.

The test to see if someone is a fanboy
1. Does he/she rebute an argument by its details? (you didn't rebut 1. on the above list)
2. Does he/she create or exaggerate someone's powers and abilities? (you did this here)

Thus you are a fanboy.
If both of us were given a choice to be either mags or sids and after we must battle to death then I am certain you would choose sids. (unless you are crazy.) [/B]

He has done those things and more(cept probably mind control cause admittedly, i haven't seen him done any).

Originally posted by h1a8
2. Don't assume Sid has iron in his blood (he is not human).

I myself am a StarWars fan, but since when has Sids NOT been human? As far as i know, he IS human but uses the force to slow his aging as well as hide his natural appearance. Where was it ever stated that he wasnt human?

Originally posted by jrodslam
I myself am a StarWars fan, but since when has Sids NOT been human? As far as i know, he IS human but uses the force to slow his aging as well as hide his natural appearance. Where was it ever stated that he wasnt human?

It is impossible that two beings from other planets to have the same genetic makeup. Thus it is common sense that he is not human. All beings whether alien or not ages. To be human is to be a certain species from a planet called Earth.

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
He has done those things and more(cept probably mind control cause admittedly, i haven't seen him done any).

since when did he make someone's nervous system explode?
since when did he take control of someone's body to make them do what he wants?
since when did he throw someone into a black hole?
He has never done those things. I am a x-men fan. (I should know!)

Originally posted by h1a8
It is impossible that two beings from other planets to have the same genetic makeup. Thus it is common sense that he is not human. All beings whether alien or not ages. To be human is to be a certain species from a planet called Earth.

What 2 beings are you talking about? There was only 1 Darth Sideous. Earth doesnt even exist in the StarWars universe. Even if it did, its clear that their universe is much more expanded than ours and humans dont only exist on Earth. IF there was an Earth in the Starwars universe, theyd be called Earthlings. Not humans. Obi, Ani, Qui-gon, Mace, Luke, Han, Padme, Palps etc are all human. In the Starwars galaxy, humans live on many planets.

Originally posted by h1a8
since when did he make someone's nervous system explode?
since when did he take control of someone's body to make them do what he wants?
since when did he throw someone into a black hole?
He has never done those things. I am a x-men fan. (I should know!)

Mags has taken over members of the X-Men before. He controls the blood in their bodies to make them do as he pleases.

Throw someone into a black hole. Havent seen it.

Gwak! A SW thread made it to page 3 before I noticed it??

SW belongs in either the SW vs. thread or not at all....we don't take "mixed" fights in this forum, as they often lead to shouting matches and fights. This seems to be civil enough (with brief exceptions), but I still have to close it on principle (cause of the rules). Sorry guys...

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