Originally posted by Newjak
Also am I the only one who saw that Cyttorak said for Cain to become stronger he had to want to become stronger.Sounds almost like they were saying Cain can get as strong as he needs to be.
Sound like Infinite Strength Anyone?
😖hifty:
Hmmm seeems like he'l be able to tap into more than 30% of the cyttorak gem. .. 😄 moreee carnage more destruction classic juggs iss baackk 😈
Originally posted by Newjak
Also am I the only one who saw that Cyttorak said for Cain to become stronger he had to want to become stronger.Sounds almost like they were saying Cain can get as strong as he needs to be.
Sound like Infinite Strength Anyone?
😖hifty:
Pretty much how we have always said it, Pretty much how marvel said it too.
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Originally posted by ApolloknightI loved the quote by Cyttorak
Pretty much how we have always said it, Pretty much how marvel said it too.😎
Cyytorak: "A weak Reason therefore you were weak."
This actually supports what I always thought about Cain. His strength and power increases with his desire to do something. So to call on more power he just has to mentally want to do something more than normal.
And this has been supported by past things of Juggernaut.
During 8th Day Saga when he was fighting Thor he constantly said he was going to get somewhere and no one would stop him and of course no one could.
Also during the Trion event he was mentally manipulated to want to get to the Trion verse so bad that he literally willed himself enough power to break the very barriers of reality.
Originally posted by Newjak
Also am I the only one who saw that Cyttorak said for Cain to become stronger he had to want to become stronger.Sounds almost like they were saying Cain can get as strong as he needs to be.
Sound like Infinite Strength Anyone?
😖hifty:
Thats how it should be imo.
Juggernaut has always been more of a plow through something than lift it kinda guy, so just because he hasn't got the lifting feats doesn't mean hes not in the same league as Hulk, Hercules, Thor etc etc.
Originally posted by Newjak
I loved the quote by CyttorakCyytorak: "A weak Reason therefore you were weak."
This actually supports what I always thought about Cain. His strength and power increases with his desire to do something. So to call on more power he just has to mentally want to do something more than normal.
And this has been supported by past things of Juggernaut.
During 8th Day Saga when he was fighting Thor he constantly said he was going to get somewhere and no one would stop him and of course no one could.
Also during the Trion event he was mentally manipulated to want to get to the Trion verse so bad that he literally willed himself enough power to break the very barriers of reality.
..........So theoretically, he can do almost anything if he wants it badly enough? 😑 So Juggernaut could take Odin if he wanted to?
Originally posted by Jimmy Buggs
Juggs hit hulk a few times. Then got over powered and out smarted.
That is not what happened. If anything Juggernaut started to overpower Hulk. In this scan you can see that Hulk and Juggs are standing still in the top panel. In the bottom panel you can see that Juggs has started to push Hulk back. For him to be unstoppable he has to first be in a charge. Here he wasn't, he then gained leverage and overpowered the Hulk. Plus Xavier kind of distracted Cain, and Hulk used that to his advantage.
Unless there is somthing that isnt posted, im not convinced this should be in the juggernaut respect thread....Herc also gave wwh a bunch of good hits. Alot of people got good hits and did damage to hulk. Wolvie cut his eyes out. But in the end he sent juggs running into a lake.... not exactly respectable for classic juggs.
Originally posted by Jimmy Buggs
Unless there is somthing that isnt posted, im not convinced this should be in the juggernaut respect thread....Herc also gave wwh a bunch of good hits. Alot of people got good hits and did damage to hulk. Wolvie cut his eyes out. But in the end he sent juggs running into a lake.... not exactly respectable for classic juggs.
The Hulk knocked the **** out of Wolverine. He left Hercules beaten, bruised, and bloody.
He COULDN'T affect the Juggernaut, so he HAD to send him into a lake.
What part of that is hard to respect? The strongest version of the Hulk EVER couldn't even phase the Juggernaut. This very same Juggernaut was getting one up on this Hulk.
That's not respectable?
Originally posted by TricksterPriestWhy do you think I'm always saying Cain has vast potential to do almost anything he wants to he just doesn't care enough to do so. It's his personality that hinders him.
..........So theoretically, he can do almost anything if he wants it badly enough? 😑 So Juggernaut could take Odin if he wanted to?
Here is a list of things Juggernaut's power has been used to do. Everything in Parenthesis is someone else using the power or a special case.
1) Create Forcefields
2) Create Energy Blasts
3) Used to shrink people
4) Recreate the Avengers at half power (Gem)
5) Alter the very Fabric of Space and Reality to create a portal so an army of Demons can take over Earth (D'Spayre)
6) Allow himself to move as nothing but a skeleton because he didn't want to die (Weakened Juggernaut)
7) Used his power to move himself through the air despite being telekinetically lifted.
8) Not age a year because he didn't want to
9) Tear down the barriers of Reality because he needed to get to the Trions (Trion Juggernaut)
10) Willed himself to resist telepathy because his will was too strong at the time
Originally posted by Newjak
Also am I the only one who saw that Cyttorak said for Cain to become stronger he had to want to become stronger.Sounds almost like they were saying Cain can get as strong as he needs to be.
Sound like Infinite Strength Anyone?
😖hifty:
Didn't Classic Juggs always have infinite strength?
Originally posted by SoljerIts a fact hulk can't affect/phase juggs, that is not surprising, the fact hulk wasn't tossing him around was impressive, juggs definatly had his strength boosted by the rock.
The Hulk knocked the **** out of Wolverine. He left Hercules beaten, bruised, and bloody.He COULDN'T affect the Juggernaut, so he HAD to send him into a lake.
What part of that is hard to respect? The strongest version of the Hulk EVER couldn't even phase the Juggernaut. This very same Juggernaut was getting one up on this Hulk.
That's not respectable?
Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
That is not what happened. If anything Juggernaut started to overpower Hulk. In this scan you can see that Hulk and Juggs are standing still in the top panel. In the bottom panel you can see that Juggs has started to push Hulk back. For him to be unstoppable he has to first be in a charge. Here he wasn't, he then gained leverage and overpowered the Hulk. Plus Xavier kind of distracted Cain, and Hulk used that to his advantage.
Just what happened to the Hulk on Sakarr that amped him up even higher than before?