Respect Juggernaut

If the god blast drains Thor then why is he completely unaffected by even a bigger surge of the god blast when he destroyed Exitar's dome? Also notice that he was exhausted when he did that.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsCelestial1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsCelestial2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsCelestal3.jpg

This leads me to believe that Thor's own physical health has little to do with the power of his god blast. (Note that I'm not arguing that the blast he used against Juggernaut was strong as the one he used against Exitar)

Originally posted by ankur29
ultimate juggeranut owned ultimate colossus , that is an awesome feat oh his behalf and places him in well excess of 100 tons and as one of the physically strongest in ultimate universe as colossus is considered one; also what puts teh icing on teh cake is that this was before he was powered up by the ultimate version of cytorrak's gem!!!the current extent of power is unknown!!!

Actually thats not what happened or at least there isn't anything that says or shown that Juggernaut beat him.

1) Colossus was lifting a 100 ton weight in the basement when a bomb went off and destroyed the mansion having all the rubble fall on him with that weight.

2) Weapon X shows up after the smoke clears and Juggernaut is sent in to get the survivors and a few panel later comes out with Piotr body there was no actual fight or a hint of one going on.

3) Ultimate Colossus doesn't revert to flesh when he is knocked out he stays in whatever form he was in at the time and since he was flesh it would seem more like Juggernaut found a human Piotr and flicked him or something knocking him out as in his flesh form he's just a normal guy.

What it seems to me is that Juggernaut just got a cheap shot in on the normal flesh Piotr and carried him out instead of dealing with the metal Colossus.

Now don't get me wrong he is a pretty strong guy and is up there with the strongest in that universe with Colossus and Thing but I don't think there was a fight between the to of them in ultimate universe yet. Also he got the gem in him now but he doesn't seemed to have gain any boost in power as a poison dart to the eye was enough to kill him. They are probably going to use it to revive him when the universe is reset or something after Ultimatium.

Originally posted by newark
3) Ultimate Colossus doesn't revert to flesh when he is knocked out he stays in whatever form he was in at the time and since he was flesh it would seem more like Juggernaut found a human Piotr and flicked him or something knocking him out as in his flesh form he's just a normal guy.

Actually the writer commented on that when he "unveiled" the character. He said something along the lines of, "You see who he is holding in his hand, yep that's Colossus. I guess you could say he beat the metal right out of him".

But of course with the last showings, they negate what was originally intended for the character.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Actually the writer commented on that when he "unveiled" the character. He said something along the lines of, "You see who he is holding in his hand, yep that's Colossus. I guess you could say he beat the metal right out of him".

But of course with the last showings, they negate what was originally intended for the character.

Which is still funny as there were no signs of a fight at all and it was canon that before and after that scene that he stayed in whatever form he was in when knocked out so he still wouldn't revert to flesh at all, unless he was joking or something went against canon or didn't know that bit of canon since its different from mainstream.

I don't see why it would be so far out there that he turns to flesh when KO'd or beat up. 616 Colossus has gone back and forth on that. Not to mention that the incident was early in the series.

He was ko'd when he pulled the sub to the surface, and he was still metal. He was ko'd by that Nuke that Hawkeye fired, and he was still metal. And I believe he dug himself out of the rubble, then turned back to normal, and was flicked on the back of the head by Juggs.

Originally posted by KingD19
He was ko'd when he pulled the sub to the surface, and he was still metal. He was ko'd by that Nuke that Hawkeye fired, and he was still metal. And I believe he dug himself out of the rubble, then turned back to normal, and was flicked on the back of the head by Juggs.

He was never KO'D be the nuke that Hawkeye shot him with. If you remember the comic he simply disappeared and Hawkeye thought it completely destroyed him but a page or so later you see him sitting down in their little hideout underground completely unharmed And he wasn't knocked out when he pulled the sub out he was carring that sucker on his bicep so I don't know why you said that. If you remember he was also KO'd with everyone else when havok used his power on them at full strength and he remined metal.

I don't see why it would be so far out there that he turns to flesh when KO'd or beat up. 616 Colossus has gone back and forth on that. Not to mention that the incident was early in the series.

Its so far out there because ultimate colossus doesn't revert to flesh when knocked out. Like KingD19 had put, he does get knocked out but every time he remained in steel form and juggernaut carrying him out in flesh form and that being the only time he was 'knocked out' and flesh would show that Juggernaut found him in flesh form and just flicked him or something. Other than the homosexual thing all his changes were made known and featured early in the series including the 'stay as metal when knocked out thing'. I agree with KingD19, I think he got the rubble off of himself then turned back to flesh probably to move through the ruins easier and then was snuck up on by Juggernaut. It would be smarter to take out Piotr as flesh than as steel and they can get in and out before Fury and his boys showed up which is probably what they went with since there wasn't anything showing a fight. Though not as pleasing to us fans.

He passed out from carrying it. Once it was up on the beach, on the same panel, he was laying there on the sand.

Passed out from carrying the sub - http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Ultimate%20Colossus/ColossuslifingSub2.jpg (At least it looks like he's passed out)

And Ult. Colossus is supposed to be smooth metal, not segmented like 616.

you sure thats ultimate? I have that issue and I don't have those pages and the art is different (much crappier) unless that was in ultimates too or something. The issue I have of it that part ends with him just carrying it on his bicep then he drops it once is on the beach enough and ends like this http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/5648/292317-186057-colossus.jpg. The art is different in the two scans so I dunno where the one of him passed out is from as the next issue doesn't have anything in it about the sub

Kinda getting off track here. Bottom line though, there wasn't anything showing that ult juggernaut had fought ult colossus. Though Juggernaut would be one of the most strongest in that universe along with colossus and thing, they didn't really play hulk up to be like thor.

Originally posted by newark
Its so far out there because ultimate colossus doesn't revert to flesh when knocked out. Like KingD19 had put, he does get knocked out but every time he remained in steel form and juggernaut carrying him out in flesh form and that being the only time he was 'knocked out' and flesh would show that Juggernaut found him in flesh form and just flicked him or something. Other than the homosexual thing all his changes were made known and featured early in the series including the 'stay as metal when knocked out thing'. I agree with KingD19, I think he got the rubble off of himself then turned back to flesh probably to move through the ruins easier and then was snuck up on by Juggernaut. It would be smarter to take out Piotr as flesh than as steel and they can get in and out before Fury and his boys showed up which is probably what they went with since there wasn't anything showing a fight. Though not as pleasing to us fans.

I'll tell you what, you can believe what you want, but I'll take the writers word on it over what you think happened. Besides it would be stupid for Colossus to revert to normal after an attack on the Mansion had started. Even if he didn't believe it was an attack, it would still be a bad decision to revert back with the damage that had just taken place.

Edit: By the way KingD19 is right on Colossus being passed out on the sand. The scan you posted is of Colossus accepting the challenge of bringing the sub up.

Yeah, I was going to say that was him before he dived down to get it. That's why he was saying something like if he couldn't do it, who could?

And me and Peter are going to have to agree to disagree, I'm not saying it's impossible for Juggs to beat Colossus, hell, he does it on a daily basis in 616, but until I actually see them fight, I'm going to go ahead and say something happened that caused Pete to go normal, then Juggs got him.

Originally posted by KingD19
And me and Peter are going to have to agree to disagree, I'm not saying it's impossible for Juggs to beat Colossus, hell, he does it on a daily basis in 616, but until I actually see them fight, I'm going to go ahead and say something happened that caused Pete to go normal, then Juggs got him.

I'm not going to claim that either. With the recent showings of Ult. Juggs before his retarded death, I don't know if he could win against Colossus. I was just throwing out there what the writer originally wanted for Ult. Juggernaut. Although if it were Ult. Juggs vs Ult. Colossus with just their mutant powers, i.e. no Banshee, then Ult. Juggs wins. 😛

Okay, cool beans then.

And if it was just there powers, Juggs would probably beat on Colossus, since he couldn't move, but I'm not sure if he would be able to know him out.

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Just wondering but how do we feel about adding Huggernaut Feats or whatever we wish to call them?

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
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Looks too much like a mechanical suit to me. Wait a minute are you telling me that Cain is a playable character?

You are correct sir.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Just wondering but how do we feel about adding Huggernaut Feats or whatever we wish to call them?

Looks too much like a mechanical suit to me. Wait a minute are you telling me that Cain is a playable character?

Trust me I'm not complaining, I'll take it and enjoy it. I'm going to GS today or Monday to reserve it so I can get the exclusive code thing or whatever you have to do to get him. Finally I have no doubts in my mind that I'm getting that game the day its coming out. We fans of Juggernaut should feel lucky because lets face it, there are a lot of other characters who could've took his spot as an exclusive character.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Trust me I'm not complaining, I'll take it and enjoy it. I'm going to GS today or Monday to reserve it so I can get the exclusive code thing or whatever you have to do to get him. Finally I have no doubts in my mind that I'm getting that game the day its coming out. We fans of Juggernaut should feel lucky because lets face it, there are a lot of other characters who could've took his spot as an exclusive character.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor was severely weakened and as the God Force stems from his Godly energies, it would make sense that it would be only a fraction of it's power as well.

Nonsense.